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post #87016 of 117677
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Originally Posted by e0d9n0b5 View Post

elisX genuine question- do you have any desire to improve? because it doesn't seem like it from your behavior

I do, but I'm just not seeing what you guys are seeing and am obviously having trouble understanding. I think as some have mentioned, MC is probably more my thing - even then there are significant improvements needed. However it probably forms a more logical base.

Tucking, tailoring, lack of cuffing - I'm doing or in the process of doing all of these things. I almost feel like I need to wear more black, more cardigans, and more slouchy clothing to make progress in this SW&D.

What I am slowly realizing is that simply wearing denim/chinos doesn't quality my fit as SW&D. This is mostly because my fit almost always involves a button down - and a button down which is normally worn more formally (business casual).
post #87017 of 117677
most of my fits in sw&d include denim, chinos, blazers, etc and never black and i get a fair amount of thumbs. saying you need those things to progress in sw&d is just a fucking cop out. look at svb and nobd. emulate them. get shoes that don't suck. stop posting 4 photos every time you post a fit.
post #87018 of 117677
lol, at wearing more black to progress on this site.
post #87019 of 117677
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Originally Posted by elisiX View Post

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Originally Posted by e0d9n0b5 View Post

elisX genuine question- do you have any desire to improve? because it doesn't seem like it from your behavior

I do, but I'm just not seeing what you guys are seeing and am obviously having trouble understanding. I think as some have mentioned, MC is probably more my thing - even then there are significant improvements needed. However it probably forms a more logical base.

Tucking, tailoring, lack of cuffing - I'm doing or in the process of doing all of these things. I almost feel like I need to wear more black, more cardigans, and more slouchy clothing to make progress in this SW&D.

What I am slowly realizing is that simply wearing denim/chinos doesn't quality my fit as SW&D. This is mostly because my fit almost always involves a button down - and a button down which is normally worn more formally (business casual).

That's really not how you should be approaching this situation.
post #87020 of 117677
Jews run the world, brah.
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post #87021 of 117677
damn you gotta wear skirts to get thumbs up now? S&D got all avant garde now...


gonna be all duchamp and wear my underwear as a shirt now, hope I get lots of thumbs up here when i post the fit.
post #87022 of 117677
No one's pointing out the obvious that dude has a heavy torso skinny legs thing going so he's gonna look like shit more often than not wearing fitted clothing. That's why he has a hard time finding shirts that fit with proper lengths.

With the exception of NOBD, gdl, Tirailleur1, and a few fits here and there, that WAYWRN MC casual thread is a disaster. I doubt he'll progress taking advice from a bunch of old dudes wearing jeans hemmed like trousers with dress shoes.
post #87023 of 117677

I hate to use lookbook as an example, but; http://lookbook.nu/user/9935-Stay-C/looks

 

This guy's style/fit is what I am trying to get to for weekends. Right or wrong to you guys, in my eyes this looks good.

 

http://lookbook.nu/look/4592107-February-16-2-13

 

And this for workday's as my business attire is still very casual.

 

http://lookbook.nu/look/4550525-February-5-2-13

 

Compared to what I did yesterday, some of the issues are clear, but I am still not sure why it seems to be so far off the mark still. 

 

Clearly he is a skinny tall bugger and I am shorter, stockier and not as slim. 

post #87024 of 117677
That guy has much slimmer build than you. Can you find something closer to your body type? Do you have the same body type as that guy but wider clothing and worse camera skills?

also that jacket is pretty short.
post #87025 of 117677

Worse camera skills, yes. 

Shorter height, yes.

Much larger build, yes.

 

I'm an L/40-42 up top and 33/32 waist. About 5'8 tall (or short).

post #87026 of 117677
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I hate to use lookbook as an example, but; http://lookbook.nu/user/9935-Stay-C/looks

This guy's style/fit is what I am trying to get to for weekends. Right or wrong to you guys, in my eyes this looks good.

http://lookbook.nu/look/4592107-February-16-2-13

And this for workday's as my business attire is still very casual.

http://lookbook.nu/look/4550525-February-5-2-13

Compared to what I did yesterday, some of the issues are clear, but I am still not sure why it seems to be so far off the mark still. 

Clearly he is a skinny tall bugger and I am shorter, stockier and not as slim. 

The sportcoat in the second link is comically short.
post #87027 of 117677
That guy looks like another GQ clone. He has no "style". If you look through all his outfits, he does the same thing over and over, keeping it safe. When he tries to branch out and try different colours, his outfits look bad.

It's literally the same outfit 30 times over, with the same jeans, sport coat, and shoes, but with a different shirt and/or sweater. No one here really goes for that look, because it's too "easy", and it lacks personality, because it emulates little to no thought and fashion sense.
I feel like a lot of people come here because they want to take things to the next level. GQ is seen as the pinnacle of style advice and dressing well, but once you look past the fact that the magazine just pushes whatever look the companies and sponsors who are paying the bills want, you realize that there's a whole other world out there.

But if you want to look like some J.Crew dad on your days off, then I don't know if you're going to find that sort of direction here.
post #87028 of 117677
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Originally Posted by elisiX View Post

I do, but I'm just not seeing what you guys are seeing and am obviously having trouble understanding.

Just come to terms with the fact that it may take you a little while to get things right. The advice you get on the internet is unlikely to help with that, so you're better off just wearing your clothes and figuring it out yourself.

Don't worry about posting a fit until you're confident that they actually look different from all the other ones you've posted. I'm sure you're at least subconsciously aware that things are not quite there. You're not far off and you don't look terrible, so don't worry about it. You'll get there.
post #87029 of 117677
In the mean time I think you would benefit from broadening your horizons a touch. Try exposing yourself to more interesting design and ambitious fits.

It won't necessarily change your taste in clothes, but it will give you a better perspective and understanding of your clothes and how to wear them.
post #87030 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Suicmez View Post

That guy looks like another GQ clone. He has no "style". If you look through all his outfits, he does the same thing over and over, keeping it safe. When he tries to branch out and try different colours, his outfits look bad.

It's literally the same outfit 30 times over, with the same jeans, sport coat, and shoes, but with a different shirt and/or sweater. No one here really goes for that look, because it's too "easy", and it lacks personality, because it emulates little to no thought and fashion sense.
I feel like a lot of people come here because they want to take things to the next level. GQ is seen as the pinnacle of style advice and dressing well, but once you look past the fact that the magazine just pushes whatever look the companies and sponsors who are paying the bills want, you realize that there's a whole other world out there.

But if you want to look like some J.Crew dad on your days off, then I don't know if you're going to find that sort of direction here.

 

This is what I am struggling to comprehend in this thread. What is wrong with safe? Why is that so boring to you guys? If the guy is comfortable in that particular style/aesthetic, of which I do not consider myself to be achieving yet but admire, then of course his wardrobe is going to be filled with similar items. Colours will change of course, but he will have a wardrobe full of denim, chino's, shirts and blazers of similar cut and shape. Why is there anything wrong with that? Why does he need to be pushing the boundaries? 

 

I have zero idea what brands he's wearing in any of those fits, and while not every single one appeals to me, generally I think his outfits look smart, tidy and the overall tones work great. There are plenty of guys in this thread who dress very similar to that and get praise, so I cannot believe that it's so dramatically wrong. I certainly don't think it lacks personality - it's just a hell of a lot more common than some of the more unique looks which are seen in this thread.

 

I guess i'm a J.Crew dad then - without children. 

 

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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post


Just come to terms with the fact that it may take you a little while to get things right. The advice you get on the internet is unlikely to help with that, so you're better off just wearing your clothes and figuring it out yourself.

Don't worry about posting a fit until you're confident that they actually look different from all the other ones you've posted. I'm sure you're at least subconsciously aware that things are not quite there. You're not far off and you don't look terrible, so don't worry about it. You'll get there.

 

Thanks Hendrix. Appreciate your comments/feedback. 

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