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post #80896 of 117677
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Originally Posted by istasi View Post

The blinding whiteness is the camera.. they don't look nearly that clean or bright in real life.
And, I know they don't work w/ everything, but I only have a few pairs of good shoes (these, side-zips, CP lows, and some flyknits) so I end up going for these pretty often. What would work better? I guess something like Rick Dunks with the other Rick stuff I have, but what about fits like this? I'm open to suggestions.

This fit pretty much necessitates white hi-top sneakers if you're going to wear sneakers. I think Raf vandals would go well. I don't like dunks very much (I'm in the minority here) but they wouldn't be bad in this fit. OG hi GATs probably wouldn't be that great but still an improvement imo. It's hard for me to make recommendations for this fit while having to imagination the shoes and how they would work with everything else in your outfit. Also, I'm having trouble thinking of all the sneakers I like.

Anyway, I don't think those sneakers are terrible. It only takes a few seconds in the baller sneakers thread to find a plethora of way more offensive entries. But I'm a fan of most of your fits otherwise, so I see them as a particularly weak point.
post #80897 of 117677
cookz, size up on the T-shirt. The skin tight shirt isn't flattering.

And KVA lace sneakers are dope. I wish I could find a pair in a 46.
post #80898 of 117677

Feel like you should tie your boots 2 holes up if you're going to tuck.

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Originally Posted by c00kz View Post


I'm a little too top-heavy to pull the tuck off flawlessly, but fuck it it's saturday night and I feel like peacocking a little bit. Or something. Additional pic and lifestyle in spoiler. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

 

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http://www.nachtkabarett.com/ihvh/img/nk_theol_david_bowie_low_cover.jpg

post #80900 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

cookz, size up on the T-shirt. The skin tight shirt isn't flattering.
And KVA lace sneakers are dope. I wish I could find a pair in a 46.

You're right, shirt looks too clingy there.. Same with the jeans (partially elastic). I wear my tees pretty hard and they usually get all stretched out so I tend to buy snug
post #80901 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Nil View Post

cookz, size up on the T-shirt. The skin tight shirt isn't flattering.
And KVA lace sneakers are dope. I wish I could find a pair in a 46.

Yeah I think I might have written too much. Basically, I'm not a fan. Others are. If you like them, continue to wear them.
post #80902 of 117677
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Originally Posted by wurm View Post

You're right about the subjective nature of fashion but it's kind of natural to feel our tastes are superior despite this. While you obviously shouldn't be a pompous dick about it (as you mention), I don't see anything wrong with feeling your aesthetic preferences are better than others'. I think menswear is dumb, even if there is nothing inherently 'dumb' about it. This doesn't mean I find people that like menswear dumb or think less of them for liking it (though I might find those that prescribe to it a bit more unsavory in general). I don't disagree with you're main point but I think you chose the wrong post to call someone out for it. lemmywinks even says "in my opinion," which is implied in all writing and is unnecessary in my opinion. He recognizes that it's his view and doesn't insult anyone, just criticizes the look.
Also, I hate the use of "slutty," "dark," "baller," "clean" and have never heard anyone describe an outfit as "romantic" (with the exception of maybe an Ann collection, but not a fit) and definitely never "outré" lol.

It's my mistake that I wasn't more clear: my post wasn't intended to "call out" lemmywinks; his remark just seemed to recall elements of this forum's oft-repeated, off-the-cuff dismissals of an entire aesthetic, without necessarily being explicit about it. Of course, that might not have been his intent, just as it wasn't my intent to call him out. In any case, I read that post and thought it would be worthwhile to explain something that has bothered me for a long time whenever SF gets to talking about #menswear stuff.
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Regarding the terms we use to describe the appeals of various aesthetics, they will inevitably become clichés. There's nothing wrong with using them (which is why I wouldn't go as far as to say that I "hate" them); it's only when they are thrown around without qualification, when they're used so indiscriminately, that they lose even the pretension to intelligently and accurately describe. This might seem pretty unilluminating, but the point is that #menswear descriptors—like "casual," "timeless," "classy"—only sound stupid when they're used stupidly. Same applies for the words we throw around here. If they're going to be used, then it really helps to attempt to unpack what inspires the use of such words, otherwise they're just empty signifiers.

As far as "feeling one's aesthetics preferences are better than others,'" that's an inevitable consequence of taste. I'm not trying to eliminate a natural human response; that's a pointless and thoughtless project. But, as you yourself have said, we shouldn't be dicks about it. That's all really. I said that "the air of superiority" is what bothers me. I can't police another person's head, or my own for that matter. But speaking what's in one's head without a filter because one believes his/her taste is inherently valuable (they're not; they're just as contingent on the calendar year as they are contingent on where you live) bespeaks a particularly disturbing level of narcissism, and reasonably speaking no one is going to put up with that. I hope that clears my original post up a bit more.
post #80903 of 117677
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Originally Posted by BreezyBirch View Post

also, shootspeed looking like asian melojello - your stacks are way way too much, man

I'll take that as a compliment!
post #80904 of 117677
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Originally Posted by BreezyBirch View Post

also, shootspeed looking like asian melojello - your stacks are way way too much, man

haha, i actually kinda like the crazy stacking but i'll probably look back on it later and hate it.
post #80905 of 117677
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Originally Posted by thewho13 View Post

Regarding the terms we use to describe the appeals of various aesthetics, they will inevitably become clichés. There's nothing wrong with using them (which is why I wouldn't go as far as to say that I "hate" them); it's only when they are thrown around without qualification, when they're used so indiscriminately, that they lose even the pretension to intelligently and accurately describe. This might seem pretty unilluminating, but the point is that #menswear descriptors—like "casual," "timeless," "classy"—only sound stupid when they're used stupidly. Same applies for the words we throw around here. If they're going to be used, then it really helps to attempt to unpack what inspires the use of such words, otherwise they're just empty signifiers.
As far as "feeling one's aesthetics preferences are better than others,'" that's an inevitable consequence of taste. I'm not trying to eliminate a natural human response; that's a pointless and thoughtless project. But, as you yourself have said, we shouldn't be dicks about it. That's all really. I said that "the air of superiority" is what bothers me. I can't police another person's head, or my own for that matter. But speaking what's in one's head without a filter because one believes his/her taste is inherently valuable (they're not; they're just as contingent on the calendar year as they are contingent on where you live) bespeaks a particularly disturbing level of narcissism, and reasonably speaking no one is going to put up with that. I hope that clears my original post up a bit more.

I'd say the word "timeless" gets a lot of flak because it's so wrong and shortsighted. It's like reaching back to the 1950's as the extent of the history of fashion. As users here are aware, no garment or style has had a very long life. I don't really mind "casual," and I agree that both it, "classy" and others can be compared to words we use here.

Anyway (referring to the second bolded part), the way I look at it, when I walk around in public I'm demonstrating a degree of superiority regarding my sartorial choices. It shouldn't affect my attitude toward others but essentially I'm making an open statement that 'this is better than that.' At this point I might be boiling it down to a matter of personal definition. I think we're on the same page.
post #80906 of 117677
gotta cosign wurm. I didn't want to say anything but those shoes has never worked for you itasi. dirty or not.
post #80907 of 117677

Party steeze (fuck, is that even a word?)

 

700

 

700

 

Burberry

gold necklace/medal

Zara

N&F Skinny Guy

Charles David
 

EDIT: @Benesyed yeah the jacket is a down-filled puffer.  It was 30 degrees Fahrenheit outside.  Jacket came off once I got inside.


Edited by CDHagg - 12/1/12 at 8:37pm
post #80908 of 117677
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Originally Posted by wurm View Post

I really think these sneakers hurt pretty much all of your fits. This is actually one of the times I find it to least be the case, but still. I know people here thought they were awesome last FW? (spring?) but I just don't think they look good. The slim shape of the shoe, mixed with the crazy lacing the whole way up (would be a bit better if only at the top) gives them an awkward appearance. It's a shame because I've really liked a lot of your looks otherwise. It doesn't help that they still look pristine and blindingly white.

Not a fan of the KVAs usually but feel they work very well with istasi's fits. They keep the silhouette coherently sleek whereas the "awkward" exaggerated lacing on top of the slim sole, like the ginger hair on the greyscale palette, provide just the right dose of dissonance to make the look interesting and distinctive. Dunks or MMMs would be a step backward IMO.
post #80909 of 117677
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Originally Posted by CDHagg View Post

Party steeze (fuck, is that even a word?)

EDIT: @Benesyed yeah the jacket is a down-filled puffer.  It was 30 degrees Fahrenheit outside.  Jacket came off once I got inside.

Ya I went out with a t and my brato leather, was ok till the sun went down. Never again. Not freezing > lookin sexay foo.gif
post #80910 of 117677
I really wish I'd bought the crazy lace KVA when they were super cheap. Damn.
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