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post #74926 of 117670
i think the idea is that they find looking like a hobo aesthetically pleasing, no?
post #74927 of 117670
Rabbit hole at 12 o'clock.
post #74928 of 117670
i'd rather talk about rationalism and aesthetics than look at a bunch of awkward looking dudes in mall brand clothes.
post #74929 of 117670
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Originally Posted by smashwindow View Post

I think fashion is more easily considered with leisure theory as opposed to aesthetic/trying to look good.  look at a lot of comme collections that people worship although it leaves them looking like hobos/hunchbacks.

Aesthetics aren't stuck in 1623 and the golden mean, if you understand fashion as something that can be a simple reflection of a social context or as a set of norms to be kept alive by being applied you might not explain comme but if you understand it can also be a practice aimed at challenging existing aesthetic norms then it starts to make a lot of sense. Truth is it is not that forward and the challenge to existing aesthetic norms it presents reflects what goes on in disciplines with a more serious theoretical backing like the fine arts. This is why Comme finds a public instead of creating one, something that would be much harder.
post #74930 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post

(if we're saying my jacket was too short, then yes, it is on the shorter side for sure. I'm 5'6 so I like to keep my upper wear on the shorter side to give a longer visual legline. Plus, actually kindof random but this may explain it, I tried on the men's small and it was still too big, so I grabbed the same jacket from the women's side in a large...
let's try again:
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Brown polo (yes a goddam polo) - H&M
Army print cargos - GAP
Brown/Cherry boots - Timerland
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Black and white stripe wide neck T - TBar
Black waxed denim - Nudie Thin Finns
Black leather boot - Palladium

a lot of this has been covered, but i think the pants in the first pic need to be way skinnier for the look you're going for, and the boots in the second are just ugly.
post #74931 of 117670
spoiler that shit
post #74932 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

i'd rather talk about rationalism and aesthetics than look at a bunch of awkward looking dudes in mall brand clothes.

I know you would, and honestly, so would I, so carry on.
post #74933 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Aesthetics aren't stuck in 1623 and the golden mean, if you understand fashion as something that can be a simple reflection of a social context or as a set of norms to be kept alive by being applied you might not explain comme but if you understand it can also be a practice aimed at challenging existing aesthetic norms then it starts to make a lot of sense. Truth is it is not that forward and the challenge to existing aesthetic norms it presents reflects what goes on in disciplines with a more serious theoretical backing like the fine arts. This is why Comme finds a public instead of creating one, something that would be much harder.

i think that when your aethestic is parodied in a ben stiller early 2000s comedy (although i guess we was more directly mocking john galliano) you aren't that fashion forward.
post #74934 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

i think that when your aethestic is parodied in a ben stiller early 2000s comedy (although i guess we was more directly mocking john galliano) you aren't that fashion forward.

Zoolander didn't parody a specific aesthetic, it wasn't aimed at "real world" fashion. It parodied a subculture: the people in fashion and how retarded they are (or at least how retarded the public thinks they are).
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Zoolander didn't parody a specific aesthetic, it wasn't aimed at "real world" fashion. It parodied a subculture: the people in fashion and how retarded they are (or at least how retarded the public thinks they are).

it definitely parodied the idea of a fashion designer drawing inspiration from the homeless and the idea that people would want to purchase those clothes and dress like that, thereby parodying an aesthetic, even second hand.
post #74936 of 117670
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

it definitely parodied the idea of a fashion designer drawing inspiration from the homeless and the idea that people would want to purchase those clothes and dress like that, thereby parodying an aesthetic, even second hand.

I guess they had a little quip about Galliano but I think it was more anecdotal than anything else. The looks weren't based on aesthetics that were current or dominant but on how stupid, dsconnected and vacuous fashion people can be, about the culture in fashion circles.

On the other hand I don't see the link with the comment I made on Comme going counter to current aesthetics but having it relatively easy anyway due to borrowing from fine arts ideas and a public already familiar with them.
post #74937 of 117670
I think this discussion has occurred many times.

We all already know:

1. This stuff is largely contextual.
2. Architectural features can make you look good (including but not limited to MC rules) or interesting.
3. Playing with said architecture can make you look interesting in context.
4. Each of these things are somewhat subjective.
post #74938 of 117670
edit: nm du got banned
post #74939 of 117670
why did he get banned?
post #74940 of 117670
who cares
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