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post #66391 of 117677
Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness and wanting to learn more yet you still vocally apply your narrow viewpoint to everyone here! If you can't participate in a discussion without simply asserting your own rightness incessantly, can you at least shut the fuck up?
post #66392 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Bam!ChairDance View Post

Cool, so there are two assumptions here, which I'll tackle one at a time
1. Structured shoulders require stronger lines below to balance them
I disagree. I find the contrast of structured shoulders with "unstructured" elements like sweaters or tees creates an energy that I think is pretty sweet. Often attempts at balancing structure succeed only at watering it down, which bores me
2. The presence of a collar and a placket is needed to provide balance
Again, this is a point with roots in social convention rather than aesthetics. Assuming that dramatic shoulders require balance to begin with, a collar/placket aren't the only elements that can do so. Below is a fit pic from an SZ dude to illustrate. Here, the severe shoulders are balanced by strict tailoring elsewhere, such as the skinny arms + jeans. The longsleeve pullover has neither a placket nor collar, and yet the fit still doesn't seem unbalanced. sz pic (Click to show)
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Oh, and here's another example from Stephan Schneider that I'm including just because it's awesome. It lacks the "traditional" collar/placket to balance the heavy shoulders and instead uses a top made from very thin jersey fabric, which creates a really cool sense of energy schneider pic (Click to show)
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To be fair, neither of your pics show a concave "pagoda" shoulder like the one in Hendrix's fit. Rather, they show flat / extended shoulders which are often associated with slouchy fits. Many of the famous Neapolitan bespoke tailors as well as Anderson & Sheppard use the latter type of shoulder (with or without roping).
post #66393 of 117677
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Originally Posted by acecow View Post

If you like that outfit, then there's nothing to discuss. We're almost as far apart in the fashion world as it's possible.
There are always rules in balancing "art" elements. Photography, architecture, clothing... They're all similar. Not knowing or disregarding the rules doesn't make you right, simply ignorant.



youre stating your opinion like an arrogant twat though
post #66394 of 117677
for what it's worth i don't think he makes a bad point about a replacing the tshirt with a shirt, but casual and untucked of course. would like nice too
post #66395 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Bam!ChairDance View Post

I liked our conversation about Hendrix's fit while it was still calm and thoughtful (in other words: your first post and my reply), but then you got all nasty like you usually do.
So yeah. Go away.
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness and wanting to learn more yet you still vocally apply your narrow viewpoint to everyone here! If you can't participate in a discussion without simply asserting your own rightness incessantly, can you at least shut the fuck up?

You are being very impolite. You shouldn't act here differently than you would in real life just because you're hidden behind a computer and not face to face with me.
I am allowed to post my opinions and participate in discussions, no? I was under the impression I wasn't insulting anyone's intelligence, rather posting my opinions. Also, being open-minded and liking everything mindlessly are two different things in my mind. I will never like very structured jackets in casual and relaxed fits, because they don't look relaxed.

FWIW, here's my reply to hendrix's fit in the MC Casual thread (sorry for the broken english, didn't proof-read):
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Originally Posted by acecow View Post

The fit is superb, but the strong shoulders on the jacket clash with the informality of the deep v-neck. A crew-neck would be much better, as well as have a less structured jacket. I'd remove the pocket square, as it looks like you're trying too hard, t-shirt and all... The pants are marvelous, and the shoes are MC-subjectively ugly, but whatever strikes your fancy there. The main problem is the shoulders on the jacket.
post #66396 of 117677
Responding to your first post was such a mistake.

It's like signing up for cat facts

Except no fun at all
post #66397 of 117677
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Can you go back to MC already? You post here under the guide of open-mindlessness...


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post #66398 of 117677
damnit acecow is shitting up my point. i just feel that hendrix's jacket is more formal than the two you posted, and it's made even more formal by the use of a pocket square.
post #66399 of 117677
New Styleforum drinking game:

Take a shot whenever the phrase "my opinion(s)" appears in an acecow post.
post #66400 of 117677
I can see that. IMO most of the formality comes from the length.
post #66401 of 117677
also the deep v neck + blazer look is really eason/club douchey, would be different he was wearing a loose slouchy shirt.
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Easter: jacket sleeve is actually longer than it looks in the pic.

 

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post #66403 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Bam!ChairDance View Post

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Originally Posted by acecow View Post

Structured shoulders not only imply a certain level of formality historically, they also require stronger lines below to balance them. Those lines are provided by a shirt collar and a vertical placket, which are missing on a v-neck. Even worse, the deep plunge of a v-neck contrasts even more with the padded and roped shoulders.
Cool, so there are two assumptions here, which I'll tackle one at a time

1. Structured shoulders require stronger lines below to balance them
I disagree. I find the contrast of structured shoulders with "unstructured" elements like sweaters or tees creates an energy that I think is pretty sweet. Often attempts at balancing structure succeed only at watering it down, which bores me

2. The presence of a collar and a placket is needed to provide balance
Again, this is a point with roots in social convention rather than aesthetics. Assuming that dramatic shoulders require balance to begin with, a collar/placket aren't the only elements that can do so. Below is a fit pic from an SZ dude to illustrate. Here, the severe shoulders are balanced by strict tailoring elsewhere, such as the skinny arms + jeans. The longsleeve pullover has neither a placket nor collar, and yet the fit still doesn't seem unbalanced.
sz pic (Click to show)
AU0x6l.jpg

Oh, and here's another example from Stephan Schneider that I'm including just because it's awesome. It lacks the "traditional" collar/placket to balance the heavy shoulders and instead uses a top made from very thin jersey fabric, which creates a really cool sense of energy
schneider pic (Click to show)
kStcF.png

I really like both of these fotos, though I don't see much relation between them and Hendrix's fit. I too thought his blazer came off a bit structured/formal, given the rest of his outfit. Don't care to much about "social convention." I care more about what looks cool. This was one of his better fits. It could have been even better with maybe a darker/non V tee, or softer shoulders IMHO.
post #66404 of 117677
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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

damnit acecow is shitting up my point. i just feel that hendrix's jacket is more formal than the two you posted, and it's made even more formal by the use of a pocket square.

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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

Teger,
Valid concern. To me, the blazer already feels like a bit of a juxtaposition in terms of the textured fabric and sharp cut, and I kinda like adding to that by wearing it like i would a moto jacket - something with similar structured shape but still rugged. I liked how this turned out but I understand why you might not.

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Originally Posted by Teger View Post

also the deep v neck + blazer look is really eason/club douchey, would be different he was wearing a loose slouchy shirt.

it's not really that deep, but point taken and i'll try a looser one next time.
post #66405 of 117677
yea i read your reply. you know what i would've liked? that jacket + your whitish linen pants + the tshirt.
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