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This was less of a 'waywt' post and more of a help post, lol.  The fit of the jeans is ok (or it used to be), it's sort of a shitty pic.  I might actually throw them in the wash (even though they're dry clean only) just to shrink them up a bit; they stretched like mad.  I wear this sweater every once in awhile when i don't give a fuck and kinda wanted SF's input.  I think the ideal look for this would be skinny jeans and weird high-tops.  Thanks for input guys.

 

I'm a dad



(Pic from last year.)

From the colon-heavy 10 Essentials: Patrik Ervell: The GQ Interview

The jeans are fine, relax. There's nothing dad-like about the fit at all. I'm picking up my tailored washed out 501s from the tailor today, gon be good Besides, the washed out jeans fit perfectly in with the Our Legacy aesthetic.

Yeah for sure, I think the whole thing looks great. My only gripe is that the shoes are too clean. beat to shit wouldn't look good either, but just not so box-fresh would be perfect. Also I hate chucks but whatever

I'm totally cool with all the jean backlash (I get that they're not everyone's cup of tea), but I want to address this one comment in particular. What I meant by my original comment was that guys like Ervell have prompted people to revisit lighter washes as a viable option for SW&D. If I had posted this outfit three or four years ago, I'm pretty sure that it would have been unanimously disliked. But now that the raw/indigo bubble has burst, there are a few people on my side at least.

I'm smart enough to recognize the irony in making this statement on SF, but personally I've always liked pale blue Levis because of the IDGAF vibe they give off.

This is exactly what's wrong with fashunz and groupthink

There was another comment a couple of days ago about TOJ and CPs being "played out". I rolled my eyes so hard they hit the back of my neck. I'd love to never have to read these two words again. So lazy

Isn't it a big part of fashion that things get 'played out'?  I mean, gdl, I know you go for stuff that's the opposite of trendy, but that isn't necessarily better than doing the opposite, you know?  I don't like the jeans either fwiw.

Not really. Obviously things will begin to look dated over time since tastes are rarely static, but something getting "played out" usually means something has hit a saturation point so absurd because everyone jumped aboard the same trend. See: pretty much every trend ever on SF

As the dude who made that comment () I have to ask-- what makes it lazy? In thread that thrives off new cool shit and stagnates when that stream of new cool shit starts to run dry, it's pretty useful to be able to say "hey guys, we need more new cool shit up in here."

FWIW, if "played out" is lazy, then even lazier is the phrase "SF groupthink." You've taken a diverse slew of people and opinions and reduced them to mindless drones. Cool man.

wow u mad ?

I love cool new stuff as much as everyone else but the idea that something that looked good (which aesthetic qualities were high) gets cycled out simply because it's no longer new is just stupid IMO. It's lazy to just point out that something has been worn before and therefore is deemed "played out". There's no form of brain activity behind such a comment.

I'm coming at this from a different point of view as you guys, that much is pretty obvious. The fact that I'm twice your average age certainly has something to do with it. I've seen the raw/washed/raw/washed cycle twice in the last 15 years. It's funny. It sells jeans - great for the industry.

In an absolute sense, you're right. CP + TOJ are classic shapes that, by themselves, are great. And the idea of "new" certainly moves in cycles, with trends that could once be called "played out" reaching a sudden phase of rejuvenation.

But, as I said before, "played out" isn't a judgment of absolute aesthetic value, it's an expression of fatigue. Once a trend reaches a saturation point as Unc argues, the feeling of fatigue over that trend outweighs any classic aesthetic value that trend has.
Edited by Bam!ChairDance - 2/27/12 at 7:50am

double post :-/