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You know, while there's fair criticism - i.e. on the clothes and the style - this is the kind of remark must say more about your personality than mine, since you don't know me personally at all. So it's probably best kept to yourself, assuming you don't actually want to come across as both stupid and nasty.

 


no it's really pretty easy to make those sort of distinctions after only seeing and reading a few of your posts.

the massive "disclosure" speaks volumes about what kind of person you are already
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FlyingMonkey

The HUGE problem is the shirt. Otherwise it could work. I like the cardigan, tie, jeans, boots are allright. The shirt however clashes violently with it all. Think blue oxford, chambray or spread collar. Whatever, as long as its plain. You should also consider loosing either the tie or the cap. It looks "too much".
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hem your jeans


You're entitled to your opinion, and I appreciate that not everyone likes this kind of look. But just on this one thing - you really don't understand the range of current ways of wearing denim if you can seriously stand behind a remark like this one as a generality. I'd advise you to take a look at some quality style mags, notably the latest issue of Tokyo cult mainstay, Free & Easy, if you actually want to see where I and many others who like wearing their jeans rolled or folded are coming from. Whether or not you like it, it is not some kind of crime, it's really very normal and I think, aesthetically pleasing. If you don't know this kind of stuff, you should probably educate yourself a little more on the range of contemporary style before trying to make style judgments - although, as I said, you're perfectly entitled to say you still hate the look.

 


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Fair enough. I do think of clothes in a costume / performance kind of way. 

 


Okay before you get more of a reaming, some constructive criticism:
Tie and knot are too wide, and it looks like you're swimming in the cardigan.
Cardigans are supposed to reign in a puffy shirt, not themselves be puffy.
Between these two factors you look like you're playing dress-up in dad's closet.
You appear to be a guy with a slim build but you really can't tell in these pics.
And color... maybe it's the camera but the cardigan clashes with the shirt and tie... salmon and burgundy don't go together.
Burgundy would look slick with the loakes IMHO. Salmon/pink and a striped shirt, not really. The striped shirt is just too much.
For the record, I like flat caps and they could totally work with your beard and aesthetic.
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no it's really pretty easy to make those sort of distinctions after only seeing and reading a few of your posts.
the massive "disclosure" speaks volumes about what kind of person you are already


Everyone here is presenting - we could all be lying, exaggerating, or merely being selective. All you have is appearance. If you think you can perform some kind of amateur forensic psychology on that basis, you're only fooling yourself. You're getting a window onto something here, but it isn't people's souls, you know.

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Everyone here is presenting - we could all be lying, exaggerating, or merely being selective. All you have is appearance. If you think you can perform some kind of amateur forensic psychology on that basis, you're only fooling yourself. You're getting a window onto something here, but it isn't people's souls, you know.


why post if you're not willing to take ANY criticism at all? sure, people have made rude comments but they've also given you some genuine advice which is GOOD ADVICE and you just ignore it because yooouuu read free & easy and know that cuffing your jeans is all the rage so you must be extremely fashionable. since you obviously knew that your fit was amazing, why not just keep it to yourself? that way we're all happy, especially me since i won't have to see you.

And for the record i always want to spit into the mouth of anybody who wears those hats !~
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Okay before you get more of a reaming, some constructive criticism:
Tie and knot are too wide, and it looks like you're swimming in the cardigan.
Cardigans are supposed to reign in a puffy shirt, not themselves be puffy.
Between these two factors you look like you're playing dress-up in dad's closet.
You appear to be a guy with a slim build but you really can't tell in these pics.
And color... maybe it's the camera but the cardigan clashes with the shirt and tie... salmon and burgundy don't go together.
Burgundy would look slick with the loakes IMHO. Salmon/pink and a striped shirt, not really. The striped shirt is just too much.
For the record, I like flat caps and they could totally work with your beard and aesthetic.


Thanks for the polite critique. As I said in the disclaimer the photo makes the cardigan look pinkish, it's really not. And there's no burgundy anywhere. But I do agree that this one is overdone. Overly costumed. The shirt may or may not have its place, but it certainly isn't with this cardigan (which BTW, I would normally wear much more simply with a dark T and never with any kind of tie). There was a certain experimental notion behind it. I'm trying to play with doing things you're not supposed to with colour and pattern right now. And also with brightness in a context which traditinally would have been drab. It didn't work. Failure is a good teacher. So back to the drawing board!

 

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@FlyingMonkey

your fit is no worse nor is it better than 90% of what's posted in this thread; and. anyone who honestly believes otherwise is delusional

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@FlyingMonkey

your fit is no worse nor is it better than 90% of what's posted in this thread;


Uhm, no.
Are you thinking of the menswear forum?
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it's fun to experiment, and I'm all for that, but since you're an academic or whatever I would think you would realize it's ok to actually learn something from an experiment instead of clinging to whatever result you anticipated.

you don't need to defend a failure, just try something new!
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why post if you're not willing to take ANY criticism at all? sure, people have made rude comments but they've also given you some genuine advice which is GOOD ADVICE and you just ignore it because yooouuu read free & easy and know that cuffing your jeans is all the rage so you must be extremely fashionable. since you obviously knew that your fit was amazing, why not just keep it to yourself? that way we're all happy, especially me since i won't have to see you.
And for the record i always want to spit into the mouth of anybody who wears those hats !~


Some people here seem to be afraid of discussion. I really don't mind. In fact, isn't that the point of the forum? So, for example, the issue of hemming selvedge jeans vs. rolling or folding is not a personal one, it's a general one, which is why I picked up on it. I am not saying 'my way' is better of more fashionable than other ways (people are welcome to hem their jeans, and I have some that I've had hemmed myself), all I am pointing out is that you can't make it a style rule to insist on hemming (or not hemming) and that there are publications and places from which we can all learn more about the range of possibilities, get ideas and see what different people do. Saying 'hem your jeans' is not advice, it's insisting on a doctrinaire idea of what should be.

 

And if you notice, I am polite and I thank those who are polite and generous with their advice. And I make it a point to learn from them and their criticism (see above, for example). However, I am generally rather dismissive of rude, crude, stupid, ignorant and trollish posts, and while I always give people the benefit of the doubt, I probably won't respond again to individuals who continually behave that way to me (or other people). I know that's a wild notion in an era of generalized and thoughtless cruelty and ill-manners, but hey, that's just the kind of crazy guy I am.

 

 

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Some people here seem to be afraid of discussion. I really don't mind. In fact, isn't that the point of the forum? So, for example, the issue of hemming selvedge jeans vs. rolling or folding is not a personal one, it's a general one, which is why I picked up on it. I am not saying 'my way' is better of more fashionable than other ways (people are welcome to hem their jeans, and I have some that I've had hemmed myself), all I am pointing out is that you can't make it a style rule to insist on hemming (or not hemming) and that there are publications and places from which we can all learn more about the range of possibilities, get ideas and see what different people do. Saying 'hem your jeans' is not advice, it's insisting on a doctrinaire idea of what should be.

 

And if you notice, I am polite and I thank those who are polite and generous with their advice. And I make it a point to learn from them and their criticism (see above, for example). However, I am generally rather dismissive of rude, crude, stupid, ignorant and trollish posts, and while I always give people the benefit of the doubt, I probably won't respond again to individuals who continually behave that way to me (or other people). I know that's a wild notion in an era of generalized and thoughtless cruelty and ill-manners, but hey, that's just the kind of crazy guy I am.

 

 


you sound so cool and interesting to be around, man.

Someday, I, too, hope to be able to interpret a suggestion as someone trying indoctrinate me.
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