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Yo man I seriously don't know what you're trying to say. But I think you've misinterpreted what PP wrote. Also lol at constant non-sequitur passive-agressive mention of postmodern writing, would you fuckers just stop.
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All i'm saying is that prep is a reified aspirational style and it isn't an illegitimate thing to want to dress like, and to dismiss aspirationalism reeks of both elitism and privilege.
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Very nice, I need to get myself a rick leather.
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Originally Posted by mellowfellow View Post
Looks good. I'm surprised that cropped pants don't make you look super short. The fit is very flattering.
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post
Put another way, if fashion is dungeons and dragons, that's like saying you can only be a magic using class and all other classes are worthless.
Huh?
post #33664 of 117677
i didn't actually read all fuuma's comments so i'm going by what's written on this page but it seems absurd to say that his own mode of presentation is not aspirational- just in what appears to me an haute-hipster/boho, des esseintes-referencing sz type of way. so its better to be part of a priviliged elite aspiring to a particular internally-sanctioned set of codes. hmmm
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happy birthday big mok
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by cowsareforeating View Post
@mok yes on the scarf, looks good with them shoes
Thanks - still not sure about the overall colour combination.
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Originally Posted by robinsongreen68 View Post
MOK, happy birthday mate. scarf looks good, so do you for 4 decades...
Cheers - I think I'm one of the few pre-decimal posters on here
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The scarf really ties together that fit MoK. Without it, nothing really stood out. So... Yes Yes Yes!
Thanks.
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weekend lifestyle pic

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ymc, jcrew, levis, alden
I like this. It's simple, but fits well and works.
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Congratulations, MoK! Well done.

How does it feel? Can you still walk, read, smile, live in general?

Less than three months to go for me...
Thanks. It wasn't too traumatic
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The Big Four-Oh today? Happy Birthday! Got mine coming up in four months.

Love them shoes. The shirt's color pops, as does the scarf; everything else is somewhat muted. I wonder if the shirt and scarf together are taking up too much of center stage.
Thanks - I don't think the dull weather helped - the (admittedly muted) greens of the jacket contrast slightly more with the trousers in better lighting, and the shirt probably pops less.

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Happy birthday big guy, you've aged well. And +1 on the scarf.
Thanks
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Happy birthday, MoK. Looks really great.
Thanks
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Lots of action tonight. Im going to interrupt with a noob fit- don't kill me... Ive posted 2 others and havent gotten ripped apart yet, haha. This is no where near what some of you are rocking... but Im trying. I guess its a poor man's take on Synthese's fit a couple pages back. Ha. Constructive crits would be great...
(Apologies for the iPhone pics, dont have a legit camera- grad school money is tight.)

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Deets on the boots:
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Solid from what I can see from the photos.
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A few pics from the weekend.

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Bit of an extreme way to keep your beer cool
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yo post some fits!!


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rick
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rick
lanvin
n. hoolywood chuck taylors (no vis)

was thinking of selling the intarsia to finance the ccp derbies I just bought since i havent worn it this year at all, but still love how easy it is to wear
Lacks sme of the visual interest some of your fits have, but it's a solid fit.
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thanks guys, pants is by +j.

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Looks good, although I think you need a bit more of a gap between the top of the shoes and the start of the pants if you're going for the cropped look or less of a gap if you weren't.

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Good thing you didn't have the right side of the cardigan pulled in any more or I would have thought you were flashing us. Solid fit, though, faux dick flash aside.
+1
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+J
W+H
APC
Diemme
Needs a full length shot really, but looks okay from what you're showing.
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Junya Watanabe
Woolrich Woolen Mills
Thom Browne
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Duckie Brown for Florsheim



Just got back from the bar, shotgunning beers with clopek and homi29 all night.

I like all of this apart from that hunting pattern.
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tommy, it looks like you wrote that in blood

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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post
yo post some fits!! rick aa rick lanvin n. hoolywood chuck taylors (no vis) was thinking of selling the intarsia to finance the ccp derbies I just bought since i havent worn it this year at all, but still love how easy it is to wear
Rick leather looks somewhat odd.
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can Schneider really be categorized as "prep," I don't get that vibe from his clothing.
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post
All i'm saying is that prep is a reified aspirational style and it isn't an illegitimate thing to want to dress like.
Right, well PP is saying it doesn't have to be, which is absolutely true. And also, it can be illegitimate if it sucks. That's the point Fuuma is making. I dunno, make of it what you will, but I tend to agree shooting for preppy for the sake of preppy is annoying and not compelling to me in an aesthetic way (or any way); it is common and often visually offensive, rarely interesting. Mjolk is/was (not sure on their status sadly) a brand that did a great preppy/dandy thing that was colorful and fashionable and interesting. Other than that, most of it is just so trite to me. That's why it's illegitimate. I don't assume all bro's who wear RL polos and lobster print shorts are stupid assholes, but I do assume that they know fucking nothing about style/fashion/aesthetics. On the other hand, I think PP would call his aesthetic a take on prep and I would agree with that, and I think what he's developed it into is fairly singular and interesting. And not aspirational.
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The problem with PP's point (and the reason behind my jab about ann d wearing postmodernists) is that we can't just say "X doesn't mean Y." As much as some poeple would like to control the discourses surrounding power relationships, many of these discourses are organically formed within the communities themselves. We can't deconstruct the world to the point where things are divorced from their inherent meanings, and as such, a lot of aspirationalism will draw on preppy in some way. Now, thinking the formalism is boring is another thing, but I think we can look outside our own aesthetic prejudices to find value in other styles. I read Hypebeast/High Snobiety even though I would never wear it because I think it's interesting to see how street style develops. One might see "oh this is just another Nike Dunk colorway" but for streetwear enthusiasts it isn't just that. Just like someone reading selectism might be like "ANOTHER Oxford shirt? Jesus christ!" I'm not arguing for total relativism, but to outright dismiss the formalism of something i think isn't giving it enough credit based on the cultural context in which it develops. In fact, I think that the idea that it doesn't give a fuck about bourgeois hangups regarding ostentation is part of why people find preppy style so "annoying."
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GN, I think you're wrong to automatically associate aspiration with prep style. I consider the way I dress aspirational, even though I'm nowhere near prep. What I aspire to, rather than a vague and problematic idea of wealth and status, is a more perfect self. I don't know why other dudes here are into clothes/fashion/style, but for me it's about making myself as close as possible to my ideal me, and this is something that extends way beyond image. Aspirational in a really basic sense of the word.
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we can't just say "X doesn't mean Y." As much as some poeple would like to control the discourses surrounding power relationships, many of these discourses are organically formed within the communities themselves. We can't deconstruct the world to the point where things are divorced from their inherent meanings, and as such, a lot of aspirationalism will draw on preppy in some way.
Nah dude, it's actually pretty simple. You take a polo shirt, cut it differently maybe asymmetric hem or something, weird stitching/seams, have it in some luxe fabric with alot of visual detail, some kind of earthy grey tone, alter the collar somewhat, and wait, what is it now? Does it still signify aspirational yuppie-ism? Hm. It's actually not difficult to subvert "inherent meanings". Signifiers are not so simplistic, identity is not a static thing, we don't just see a button-up shirt and simply say "oh business[man]". There are a slew of other associations, and particularly for those informed, we look at the buttondown and the details tell us a few things about it; it's utility, it's formality, maybe we can try to intuit how it will feel to the touch. Yeah, all those associations still exist in a sense, or have a kind of presence; but a preppy outfit does not necessarily = aspirationalism. Easy example: take one of PP's slightly relaxed, slightly roughed up all blue or beigey-greeny looks. Does that look like aspirationalism to anyone? Probably not. But the individual pieces often come from trad/prep origins.
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Now, thinking the formalism is boring is another thing
Didn't say that. Said prep is usually boring, formalism with prep could maybe be compelling but usually isn't. PP has done it though IMO. PS- off to "postmodern culture" study in thirty minutes, lol, I look forward to continuing this later this afternoon
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Looks good dude. How are the Ebbets Field caps? Considering one for summer
Best cap I have ever owned. EVER.
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I think we should start another thread for this
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post
I'm not arguing for total relativism
That's exactly what is sounds like.

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The idea that aspirationalism isn't a legitimate motivatior for a style of dress is absurd.
I'm not trying to get into an argument of legitimacy, i'm simply saying that it's predictable and uninteresting for enthusiasts. If you could read how to do it on wikiHow then it sucks, same goes for replicating a runway look.
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Gant by Michael Bastian FW11= god-awful prep

http://www.dapperlou.com/ (second feature down)
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