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Originally Posted by A Fellow Linguist View Post

Seriously dude? I know this is internet bro zone, but do we have to jump to sex and rape jokes every time somebody posts a picture of a girl? It's especially dumb in this case because she's dressed in a style that explicitly rejects sexualization.

yeah... i'm just going to point out that while it may reject overt sexualization a la showing skin, it still intrinsically calls for a lot of fetishization, especially with the moe/kawaii culture in japan...
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

if you haven't noticed, sf is basically the reddit of the men's fashion world...

 

I thought r/mensfashion was the reddit of the men's fashion world

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yeah... i'm just going to point out that while it may reject overt sexualization a la showing skin, it still intrinsically calls for a lot of fetishization, especially with the moe/kawaii culture in japan...

How can something call for fetishization? Is it like asking to be raped? Maybe the comparison is extreme, but the over the top, almost aggressive innocence of lolita is in many ways meant to subvert the male gaze. It takes "moe/kawaii" culture and turns it up to 11, bringing with it a new set of aesthetic values that deliberately puts off random dudes on the street while providing an avenue to build a kind of non-mainstream, but still distinctly feminine, identity.
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ideals and actual practice usually end up being very different. communism would have been a shit ton better if you know... economic equality was pursued without the need for hierarchal intervention.
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I guess we will all just have to agree to disagree

In any case, I am sorry to have offended you brad. No beef?
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

ideals and actual practice usually end up being very different. communism would have been a shit ton better if you know... economic equality was pursued without the need for hierarchal intervention.

So what? People shouldn't dress that way because there are perverts out there? Everyone should probably just put burlap sacks on, just to be safe.
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Brad, does she travel around with an interpreter or did someone provide her for the interview?  Did you pick up any cool japanese expressions or something like that?

Sure would be useful if you end up traveling someday.

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chill with the white knighting. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that they shouldn't. everyone has the right to their own happiness. the unfortunate reality of the situation though, for better or for worse, is that lolita culture and all parts thereof are fetishized, and thus, sexualized. there are fucking people out there who are into furries and weird fucking shit like that too. it's not like sexual deviancy is some modern day invention. it's like the fucking rule 34 of life.
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Originally Posted by Lionheart Biker View Post

Brad, does she travel around with an interpreter or did someone provide her for the interview?  Did you pick up any cool japanese expressions or something like that?
Sure would be useful if you end up traveling someday.

She doesn't travel with an interpreter, but we were able to arrange one for the meeting. He was a novice at it but very very helpful. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by A Fellow Linguist View Post

How can something call for fetishization? Is it like asking to be raped? Maybe the comparison is extreme, but the over the top, almost aggressive innocence of lolita is in many ways meant to subvert the male gaze. It takes "moe/kawaii" culture and turns it up to 11, bringing with it a new set of aesthetic values that deliberately puts off random dudes on the street while providing an avenue to build a kind of non-mainstream, but still distinctly feminine, identity.
I know you mean well but you are such an ivory tower intellectual. Absolutely missing what is right in front of you.
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CANT ESCAPE MY MAIL GAIZ
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Originally Posted by nahneun View Post

chill with the white knighting. don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that they shouldn't. everyone has the right to their own happiness. the unfortunate reality of the situation though, for better or for worse, is that lolita culture and all parts thereof are fetishized, and thus, sexualized. there are fucking people out there who are into furries and weird fucking shit like that too. it's not like sexual deviancy is some modern day invention. it's like the fucking rule 34 of life.

I'm sure there are people who fetishize lolita, but the beauty of the situation is that in doing so they're essentially outing themselves as creeps. And getting back to the point, none of what you said means that people should get a free pass on being gross and making dumb jokes.
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I know you mean well but you are such an ivory tower intellectual. Absolutely missing what is right in front of you.

ENLIGHTEN ME, MOTHERFUCKER.
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inappropriate jokes will be made as long as stereotypes exist, and lord knows japan is rife with sexual perversion/deviancy stereotypes. boys will be boys, girls will be girls, and dumb americans will be dumb americans (i'm looking at you, coke commercial dissenters). it's an unfortunate fact of life. the world doesn't run on politically correct behavior.
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I would post some Miran-style prose about Benes donning the yohji garb "one last time" in order to have the final fit battle with brad-t that changes the landscape of the dressed-by-the-internet fashion landscape for years...

 

but I'm tired.

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