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post #31 of 42
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krav. Read my PM
I did and I appreciate your help, but I'm more concerned about the fit of my suit jacket; I can leave the shirt collar unbuttoned and wear it as a casual shirt.
post #32 of 42
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can you please tell me what exactly need to be fixed? I realize it's a pretty poor fitting suit but people have been criticizing it to death without giving me any idea as to how to fix it and that's frustrating me.

The back for sure. The tailor will need to open up that center seam, clean it up, and then taper it using the side and center seams.

Sleeves are hard to tell since the shirt is so baggy. You didn't post a side shot so can't tell how poorly the shoulders fit, but from the front they seem a bit too large.

How much room is there when you pull the jacket away from you at the button-point? In other words, when you do this, what is the distance between your stomach and the button point when the jacket is pulled outward? Because it seems too big in the chest area.
post #33 of 42
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The back for sure. The tailor will need to open up that center seam, clean it up, and then taper it using the side and center seams. Sleeves are hard to tell since the shirt is so baggy. You didn't post a side shot so can't tell how poorly the shoulders fit, but from the front they seem a bit too large. How much room is there when you pull the jacket away from you at the button-point? In other words, when you do this, what is the distance between your stomach and the button point when the jacket is pulled outward? Because it seems too big in the chest area.
what do you mean by "open the center seam, clean it up, and then taper it using the side and center seams"? If I go and tell my tailor that, will he know what I'm talking about? This is all a learning experience for me and I'm just trying to get it right. edit: here is a pic from the side. when I pull my jacket from the button the distance between my stomach and the button point is about 4.5 to 5 inches. Is that too big a distance?
post #34 of 42
if you have a tailor, why not just have him take your measurements? I'm sure he'd have a lot more advice than anyone can give you based on a couple of two-dimensional internet photos...
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if you have a tailor, why not just have him take your measurements? I'm sure he'd have a lot more advice than anyone can give you based on a couple of two-dimensional internet photos...
thing is, I don't. and since I'm still mooching off the rents and therefore can't really throw it away or let my dog chew it, salvaging it is the only option. I know very little about suits(if I did I wouldn't have bought this at the first place) and I don't wanna get taken for a ride by some unscrupulous tailor.
post #36 of 42
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thing is, I don't. and since I'm still mooching off the rents and therefore can't really throw it away or let my dog chew it, salvaging it is the only option. I know very little about suits(if I did I wouldn't have bought this at the first place) and I don't wanna get taken for a ride by some unscrupulous tailor.

I would not throw it away. For a first suit, it is not too bad. One day hopefully you will own a great fitting suit and realize all the subtle differences, but for now, this suit is serviceable.

You're not going to be able to do anything about the shoulders. Because the shoulders are a little wide, the chest will be a little wide and the suit will always look somewhat big on you. But here's what may help. Number 1: Have a tailor clean up the back by getting rid of some of those vertical ripples behind the shoulder blades. Number 2: On the side view, see those horizontal ripples on your upper back right below your neck? The tailor should be able to lower your collar to get rid of those. Number 3: Sleeves could probably use a little bit of shortening, but they are not grotesquely long, so it not necessary if your budget is limited.
post #37 of 42
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I would not throw it away. For a first suit, it is not too bad. One day hopefully you will own a great fitting suit and realize all the subtle differences, but for now, this suit is serviceable.

You're not going to be able to do anything about the shoulders. Because the shoulders are a little wide, the chest will be a little wide and the suit will always look somewhat big on you. But here's what may help. Number 1: Have a tailor clean up the back by getting rid of some of those vertical ripples behind the shoulder blades. Number 2: On the side view, see those horizontal ripples on your upper back right below your neck? The tailor should be able to lower your collar to get rid of those. Number 3: Sleeves could probably use a little bit of shortening, but they are not grotesquely long, so it not necessary if your budget is limited.

I have a few questions. should the back be cleared of all ripples always? Also, is there anyway I can fix the chest area? How much should the sleeves be shortened?

Thank you for your reply, one of the more helpful posts in the thread. At least now I have a fair idea on how to go about fixing it.
post #38 of 42
Not all. There is always going to be a tradeoff between a clean back and one that leaves you some room to comfortably move your arms. To my untrained eye, there looks to be a good amount of fabric on the back of your jacket that can be taken in and still leave you room to move.

Chest is a tougher question since I'm not an expert. My guess is that if indeed the chest is slightly big, you won't be able to do much about it without recutting the arm-holes.

Sleeves -- maybe half an inch. Your left sleeve seems to be slightly longer than your right, but it may just be the way you were letting your arms hang. It may not be worth the cost.
post #39 of 42
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when I pull my jacket from the button the distance between my stomach and the button point is about 4.5 to 5 inches. Is that too big a distance?

Generally yes, it means it is too large and needs to be taken in if possible. I like to have about 3" maximum.
post #40 of 42
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Generally yes, it means it is too large and needs to be taken in if possible. I like to have about 3" maximum.

How easy it is to have the chest taken in? can you do it without recutting the arm holes like overdog said?
post #41 of 42
Hey man, it's hard to give people like you with this type of thread advice because you're really just starting out and there's too much to tell you all in one go. I totally understand where you're coming from and the need for help. Congrats on buying a suit, ability to recognize you need help making it look better, the balls to post pics to the world, and maturity to ignore (almost) the jokes. To try to help you... you're not a suit expert. so find someone like a tailor who is. That's their job, that's what they do. Learn enough to recognize if they know what tehy're doing, or search sites like this for recommended lists of well-regarded people. Look up Google review, Yelp, or whatever and try to get a few names. just Google "good tailor X city". Basically your tailor should be able to tell YOU what needs to be done. Or print out some pics and look at the daily "what are you wearing today" (WAYWT) for ideas on what suits should fit like. on specifics about the fit - collar of the jacket needs to come in. Top of the back needs to be let out. Midsection of back needs to be pulled in... So it pretty much follows the curve of your body with a bit of space in the midsection and bottom to fit a stomach, ass, and hips. Sleeves should be about where your wrist bone is, and the shirt should just hit the top of your hand, so showing a little bit of shirt cuff. The thing just needs SHAPE. right now it's a box that sort of HANGS off of you rather then fitting your body. Pants and shoes look fine. Hope that helps as a start.
post #42 of 42
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Hey man, it's hard to give people like you with this type of thread advice because you're really just starting out and there's too much to tell you all in one go. I totally understand where you're coming from and the need for help. Congrats on buying a suit, ability to recognize you need help making it look better, the balls to post pics to the world, and maturity to ignore (almost) the jokes. To try to help you... you're not a suit expert. so find someone like a tailor who is. That's their job, that's what they do. Learn enough to recognize if they know what tehy're doing, or search sites like this for recommended lists of well-regarded people. Look up Google review, Yelp, or whatever and try to get a few names. just Google "good tailor X city". Basically your tailor should be able to tell YOU what needs to be done. Or print out some pics and look at the daily "what are you wearing today" (WAYWT) for ideas on what suits should fit like. on specifics about the fit - collar of the jacket needs to come in. Top of the back needs to be let out. Midsection of back needs to be pulled in... So it pretty much follows the curve of your body with a bit of space in the midsection and bottom to fit a stomach, ass, and hips. Sleeves should be about where your wrist bone is, and the shirt should just hit the top of your hand, so showing a little bit of shirt cuff. The thing just needs SHAPE. right now it's a box that sort of HANGS off of you rather then fitting your body. Pants and shoes look fine. Hope that helps as a start.
Thank you so much for your post. Now I know what issues the suit has and how to go about fixing them. I will take it to a tailor and ask him to slim down the suit so it's less boxy and follows my body's curves as close as possible. I will take your advice and spend more time in the what are you wearing thread. Thanks for the help once again.
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