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Originally Posted by cj10 View Post

oil em leave it for 10 min den brush em right?
can i use toothbrush?
Don't oil then if you think you might have to return them. Just brush them, with a horsehair shoebrush. I shall give you the benefit of the doubt that the toothbrush question wasn't serious
post #4667 of 6542
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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post
 

Goretex breathes (SORT of) because it has holes in it that are larger than liquid water, but smaller than individual molecules of water vapor. I think this is sort of what you are saying.

 

 

If the Goretex holes (which it does have and which can get plugged up with detergents and dirt) were larger than liquid water, then I would hazard to say it wouldn't be waterproof. Water vapor should be smaller than liquid water so you have an anomaly in your statement. A paradox if you will. 

post #4668 of 6542

I just received my boots from Crane's (No. 8 color.)

 

Tried them on, made sure everything was 100%, two applications of Obenauf's boot oil and.....Beautiful.

 

Pardon the reflection, I wanted to show how the oil darkened the soles and heel.  It was a nice benefit of applying the oil.

 

The boot oil slightly darkened the No. 8 color of the boots, but I think in a good way.

 

It was really nice pre-application but in my opinion the oil added something good.

 

I'll let the oil do it's thing for a few days and hit them with the Obenauf's LP I purchased.

 

Thanks Crane's!  You guys are awesome!! :thumbs-up:

 

post #4669 of 6542

Hey guys, can someone verify if the last is the same in the Courtlands and the Original 1000 Mile Boots?

 

I have a pair of the Courtlands, and I will order the Originals at some point. There aren't any local retailers that would carry those so that I could check the fit myself.

post #4670 of 6542
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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post

Goretex breathes (SORT of) because it has holes in it that are larger than liquid water, but smaller than individual molecules of water vapor.

I'm open to learning more though, I'm not claiming any kind of expertise in this, just trying to remember high school chemistry and physics, and it just seems contrary to common sense to assume that a solid does not impede breathability to some extent when applied to another solid.

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Originally Posted by Spyder187 View Post

If the Goretex holes (which it does have and which can get plugged up with detergents and dirt) were larger than liquid water, then I would hazard to say it wouldn't be waterproof. Water vapor should be smaller than liquid water so you have an anomaly in your statement. A paradox if you will. 

Water molecules (whether liquid or vapor) are always made up of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom, separated by bond lengths of about 84 picometers (picometers are 1000x smaller than nanometers). These bonds do bend, stretch, and vibrate with temperature and radiation (like IR), but this difference would be transient and minimal in comparison to the size of Goretex pores, which range from 60-90 microns (roughly one-million times larger than a water molecule.
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I obviously mistakenly wrote it backwards.

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I'm starting to miss the original shade of my Rust 1ks. They have developed their own patina but a few years of Obenauff's and regular wear have darkened them considerably. At this point, they're so easily mistaken for brown. 

 

Can anything be done? Maybe cordovan polish?

post #4673 of 6542
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post

I'm starting to miss the original shade of my Rust 1ks. They have developed their own patina but a few years of Obenauff's and regular wear have darkened them considerably. At this point, they're so easily mistaken for brown. 

Can anything be done? Maybe cordovan polish?
Pics?
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What if you just wore them without doing anything to them? Would they eventually start to return to their original color if you stopped treating them?

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Pics?


post #4676 of 6542
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Originally Posted by BostonHedonist View Post



Damn those have been rode hard

Maybe clean them with something like saddle soap to pull all the oils out?

Or flip them for 100 bucks to a hipster and buy new ones
post #4677 of 6542
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And those look awfully dark for rusts when new... You sure they are rust?
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And those look awfully dark for rusts when new...
You sure they are rust?

 

It was late in the day using natural light for the "before pic," but yes, they're rust. 

 

No way am I "flipping" them to some hipster. These boots have only just broken in!

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hey guys hows it going? Been looking at boots for awhile and finally bought a pair of the 1000 mile hartmann's in brown. Love the look and fit of the boot. Was just wondering what kind of products I should use on them to keep them looking great. They wont be wore much to work in as I paint cars and dont wanna run they're look. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

post #4680 of 6542
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Originally Posted by Dtrickz View Post
 

hey guys hows it going? Been looking at boots for awhile and finally bought a pair of the 1000 mile hartmann's in brown. Love the look and fit of the boot. Was just wondering what kind of products I should use on them to keep them looking great. They wont be wore much to work in as I paint cars and dont wanna run they're look. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Before everyone just tells you to read 312 pages of threads, here's the quick summary based on my reading of the threads (yes, it too me awhile).  I’m not an expert, and am just trying my best to summarize, so if anyone has corrections, please holler.

 

- Cleaning: Lexol cleaner or kiwi saddle soap.  Lots of debate on saddle soap, and less debate seems to be around lexol.  Lexol is easy to use since it's a spray.  

 

- Conditioning: Boot oil is highly recommended.  Varying opinions but general consensus from all the threads is Obenauf's  and Filson's boot oil are winners.  Both will darken the leather.  Lots of debate about Neatsfoot oil and whether it will eventually rot the boot stitching.  Seems to be no consensus on the matter, but lots of people swear by it. If you go with Neatsfoot oil, make sure it's "pure" and not a compound.  Whatever boot oil you use, 1 coat is minimum, many people do 2 coats.  As mentioned, this will darken the leather so if you want to avoid that, then skip any of these products and the waterproofing ones.  (Note, it will initially look darker at first, and after a few days, it will lighten up a bit but still be darker than before the oil application).

 

These are 2 alternatives to boot oil that seem to get mentioned:

 

Meltonian shoe cream -- comes in various colors so get the closest one to match you're actual boot color. Added advantage is that the coloring will help clean/fill in scuffs.

Venetian Shoe Cream (aka "VSC") -- I've read so many glowing recommendations of this and people universally seem to say that it won't darken your boots.  

Lexol Conditioner -- this gets recommended as well, but from far fewer people.  Doesn't mean it's not good, just that it doesn't seem to get as much love on the forums as the other options listed.

 

- Waterproofing: Further protection with intense waterproofing can be had through use of Obenauf's Heavy Duty LP (aka Obenauf's LP) or Sno-seal.  Depending who you ask, you'll get different recommendations, but they all converge around these 2.  There is debate on whether you need this at all if you aren't exposing your boots to the outdoors a lot (or water/snow).  These will also darken the boots. 

 

Brush: Get yourself one or more horsehair brushes.  If you're just using it to clean and buff non-colored washes, one brush should be OK.  If you're using colors waxes/polishes, get one for each color to avoid any transfer.

 

 

 

Change history:

- 2013-12-16: Added lexol conditioner as an option based on wdahab's recommendation.


Edited by tmchow - 12/16/13 at 10:27am
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