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post #3946 of 6893
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Originally Posted by Trimalchio View Post
 

Yet another sizing question here...

 

I typically wear a size 14 in all shoes - sneakers, allen edmonds, etc.

 

I recently bought the Wolverine 1000s in both a 14 and 13. The 14 feels a little big, while the 13 feels a bit tight, especially on my left foot which is slightly larger. 

 

Which do you recommend I keep?


Read somewhere the looser fitting shoe is the way to go.  Don't know what time of the day you tried them on but after walking a bit later in the day your feet will be bigger.

post #3947 of 6893
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Originally Posted by Trimalchio View Post

Yet another sizing question here...

I typically wear a size 14 in all shoes - sneakers, allen edmonds, etc.

I recently bought the Wolverine 1000s in both a 14 and 13. The 14 feels a little big, while the 13 feels a bit tight, especially on my left foot which is slightly larger. 

Which do you recommend I keep?

I would go big and wear boot socks. I want nothing to do with a tight shoe ever again. If it is still too big with the boot socks, I would find another brand of boot that fits better.
post #3948 of 6893
Went to Horweens site, dont see any suggestion for what type of conditioner to use on the Essex leather on my Krause's. It seems to be a Shell Cordovan minus the shell, and side leather instead.... but I dont see anything recommending a conditioner for Shell Cordovan either.


Any suggestions? Note: I am not going to Obenauf or Sno Seal these. I dont want to change the color, and they wont see very much inclement weather.


This is what Alden recommends: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm Horween is an Alden supplier... but I figured Id ask for opinions here first.
post #3949 of 6893
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Originally Posted by llltronlll View Post

Went to Horweens site, dont see any suggestion for what type of conditioner to use on the Essex leather on my Krause's. It seems to be a Shell Cordovan minus the shell, and side leather instead.... but I dont see anything recommending a conditioner for Shell Cordovan either.


Any suggestions? Note: I am not going to Obenauf or Sno Seal these. I dont want to change the color, and they wont see very much inclement weather.


This is what Alden recommends: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm Horween is an Alden supplier... but I figured Id ask for opinions here first.

 

Lexol. Always Lexol. I use it on everything: Chromexcel, Essex, Shell, whatever.

 

post #3950 of 6893

Thinking about buying a pair... just curious, why are the vast majority of photos in this thread of the Brown or Rust colored ones, but very few Cordovan? Is it that most people just prefer the standard brown colors, or does the reddish Cordovan stand out too much as a "look at me" type of item? I kind of like the cordovan color, but I like to dress conservatively and not grab attention, but still look nice. Seeing so few people go for that color makes me wonder if it'll be a mistake for me to not go with a safe and simple brown.

post #3951 of 6893
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Originally Posted by llltronlll View Post

This is what Alden recommends: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm Horween is an Alden supplier... but I figured Id ask for opinions here first.

 

1000 Miles are not shell cordovan, including the "cordovan" colored ones. They are all Horween Chromexcel leather, not pricey shell cordovan.

 

edit: I am referring only to the standard "1000 Mile" and not the many variations of it, which can use other leather


Edited by chocobo - 10/11/13 at 1:23pm
post #3952 of 6893
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Originally Posted by chocobo View Post

1000 Miles are not shell cordovan, including the "cordovan" colored ones. They are all Horween Chromexcel leather, not pricey shell cordovan.

721LTD and 7444LTD were shell cordovan leather.
post #3953 of 6893
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Originally Posted by llltronlll View Post

Went to Horweens site, dont see any suggestion for what type of conditioner to use on the Essex leather on my Krause's. It seems to be a Shell Cordovan minus the shell, and side leather instead.... but I dont see anything recommending a conditioner for Shell Cordovan either.


Any suggestions? Note: I am not going to Obenauf or Sno Seal these. I dont want to change the color, and they wont see very much inclement weather.


This is what Alden recommends: http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm Horween is an Alden supplier... but I figured Id ask for opinions here first.

Krause is made from Dublin leather (which is similar to Essex, just waxier) and is indeed using the same tanning process as shell, except on non shell-hide (it can either be cow or horse, I believe). However, I wouldn't confuse it for being similar to shell. The real difference with shell vs all other leathers is the direction of the grain, so the really desirable aspects of shell won't be obtainable with Dublin, like the waves instead of creases. That said, MarioImpeba's advice of lexol coditioner is solid, as well as venetian shoe cream (which will bring out a bit more of a shine). Don't over think it.

It's worth pointing out, btw, that the Krause boot is actually, like the 744LTD and 721LTD made by Allen Edmonds. Hence the 360 welt, instead of 180.

As for the cordovan vs. shell cordovan, well everyone is correct on this. Lots of people think the "cordovan" is shell cordovan and its not, its a poorly named CXL color (it's actually called #8, rather than cordovan, by some places to avoid the confusion). That said, of course, there were a couple of *actual* shell cordovan models as a limited edition, but most people have no idea that those were out there. W1K really should rename their cordovan model to "burgundy" to avoid tho confusion.
post #3954 of 6893
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Originally Posted by Trimalchio View Post

Yet another sizing question here...

I typically wear a size 14 in all shoes - sneakers, allen edmonds, etc.

I recently bought the Wolverine 1000s in both a 14 and 13. The 14 feels a little big, while the 13 feels a bit tight, especially on my left foot which is slightly larger. 

Which do you recommend I keep?

I can speak to this, as I bought a size 14 in these boots over the summer and have been giving them some good wear. I wear a 14 in basically all other shoes, except a few timberlands and converse shoes that fit a little large. After wearing these 1K miles the first time, I had a really painful spot in the mid foot area that lasted for a few days on my larger foot. I have quite flat feet, but I usually don't get this pain unless I size down, but for some reason these felt really snug on this particular foot. I added some insoles, which limited the space a bit, which may help you, but they now feel far more comfortable. No more issues with pain so far. I would recommend going with a 14 on these, and as it has already been said, you're better of with more room than less. There are plenty of alternatives when there's space in the shoe, none when there isnt.
post #3955 of 6893
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Originally Posted by wdahab View Post


Krause is made from Dublin leather (which is similar to Essex, just waxier) and is indeed using the same tanning process as shell, except on non shell-hide (it can either be cow or horse, I believe). However, I wouldn't confuse it for being similar to shell. The real difference with shell vs all other leathers is the direction of the grain, so the really desirable aspects of shell won't be obtainable with Dublin, like the waves instead of creases. That said, MarioImpeba's advice of lexol coditioner is solid, as well as venetian shoe cream (which will bring out a bit more of a shine). Don't over think it.

It's worth pointing out, btw, that the Krause boot is actually, like the 744LTD and 721LTD made by Allen Edmonds. Hence the 360 welt, instead of 180.

As for the cordovan vs. shell cordovan, well everyone is correct on this. Lots of people think the "cordovan" is shell cordovan and its not, its a poorly named CXL color (it's actually called #8, rather than cordovan, by some places to avoid the confusion). That said, of course, there were a couple of *actual* shell cordovan models as a limited edition, but most people have no idea that those were out there. W1K really should rename their cordovan model to "burgundy" to avoid tho confusion.

Spot on . I have the Krause, Brown chromexcel, and the 744

 

The waxiness of the dublin is a bit different for boots. I like it, it gives some variance to the 1K line. I also like the 360 storm welt on them although I wish they came with a non-leather outsole. Something like a dainite or mini lug would look amazing on them which I will have done once it needs a resole. I am waiting for the sole to go out on the 744 as well and I am going to have it resoled with a red dainite similar to the Calikid's 721.

post #3956 of 6893
Calikid has red danite soled 721s? That guy is crazy, you should see the Rancourt MTO's he commissions. They are insane. Actually, after putting a half-sole on my 744s, and nothing on my 721, I prefer the nothing at the end of the day.
post #3957 of 6893
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

Lexol. Always Lexol. I use it on everything: Chromexcel, Essex, Shell, whatever.


Great, thanks for the response. I've never used Lexol... their normal conditioner I presume?

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Originally Posted by chocobo View Post

1000 Miles are not shell cordovan, including the "cordovan" colored ones. They are all Horween Chromexcel leather, not pricey shell cordovan.
You are incorrect, as was pointed out above.

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Originally Posted by wdahab View Post

Krause is made from Dublin leather (which is similar to Essex, just waxier) and is indeed using the same tanning process as shell, except on non shell-hide (it can either be cow or horse, I believe). However, I wouldn't confuse it for being similar to shell. The real difference with shell vs all other leathers is the direction of the grain, so the really desirable aspects of shell won't be obtainable with Dublin, like the waves instead of creases. That said, MarioImpeba's advice of lexol coditioner is solid, as well as venetian shoe cream (which will bring out a bit more of a shine). Don't over think it.

It's worth pointing out, btw, that the Krause boot is actually, like the 744LTD and 721LTD made by Allen Edmonds. Hence the 360 welt, instead of 180.

As for the cordovan vs. shell cordovan, well everyone is correct on this. Lots of people think the "cordovan" is shell cordovan and its not, its a poorly named CXL color (it's actually called #8, rather than cordovan, by some places to avoid the confusion). That said, of course, there were a couple of *actual* shell cordovan models as a limited edition, but most people have no idea that those were out there. W1K really should rename their cordovan model to "burgundy" to avoid tho confusion.
Well, I didnt think they were shell cordovan. I thought they were Dublin (I just transposed Essex with Dublin), which is vegetable tanned in a similar fashion to cordovan, although on a side hide (according to Horween). Hence why I thought I should care for them like a vegetable tanned cordovan, not a Chromexcel leather.

I thought all the 1k's were made by Allen Edmonds?
post #3958 of 6893
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Originally Posted by llltronlll View Post

I thought all the 1k's were made by Allen Edmonds?

No, just the 360 welts, unless anyone has explicit confirmation otherwise. That's why there was a corporate squabble early this year, when Allen Edmonds was selling their W1K seconds for really cheap, it was just the Krause and shells. Krause were $170 or so, 744s (and secret 721s that were mismarked) were $350. If they were doing all the W1K line, they would have had the CXL ones in that too.
post #3959 of 6893
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Originally Posted by llltronlll View Post

Great, thanks for the response. I've never used Lexol... their normal conditioner I presume?

 

Yup, the brown bottled stuff, not the orange-cleaner.

post #3960 of 6893
Interesting... thanks guys!
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