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what about the boot oil they sell at the Red Wing store?  same stuff?

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someone on reddit posted this from rei about sno-seal and leather boots

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Q: What about using Sno-Seal?

Tectron Water Repellent

A: Unlike water-based formulas used by Nikwax and Granger's, Sno-Seal is a beeswax-based waterproofing paste. Introduced in 1933, it is manufactured by South Carolina-based Atsko, Inc., and is marketed at outdoor stores under the Tectron label.

Designed originally for boots worn by hunters and outdoor laborers (loggers, for example), Sno-Seal is a waterproofing product with a large following. It carries one drawback: If applied to the leather used in nearly all modern leather hiking boots, those boots cannot be resoled, says cobbler Dave Page.

"You just can't work on the boots after it's on the leather," Page says of Sno-Seal. "Most hiking boots today are made of dry-tanned leather that uses chromium salts and chromium sulfates. Modern uppers sit down on top of sole units and are glued on, not stitched. To get soles to stick to the glue line, you have to be able to get the leather absolutely clean.

"Sno-Seal, Mink Oil, Neatsfoot Oil are all products that work fine as waterproofing, but they're formulated for oil-tanned leather--leather from 60 years ago," Page says. "There's just something that's in Sno-Seal that gets impregnated in dry-tanned leather. I don't know what it is. Once it's in there you can't clean it out and the leather will just not accept adhesives."

Not every hiker considers resoling their backpacking boots. If you deeply love a pair of boots and anticipate a lifelong relationship with them, though, it's best to bypass Sno-Seal. "I think Sno-Seal is an awfully good waterproofing product," says Page, who does not carry Sno-Seal in his shop. "It works fine if as long as you put it on boots that you don't care if they ever get resoled."

 

 

 

Judging from the thread I guess this isn't a problem for 1000 mile boots.

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Originally Posted by mellowllama View Post

Judging from the thread I guess this isn't a problem for 1000 mile boots.

 

Maybe because 1K's are goodyear-welted. facepalm.gif

 

...And use some of that "60 years ago" leather.

 

That article is talking about Wal-Mart tier boots. Who resoles a fused sole?

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Originally Posted by digga View Post

what about the boot oil they sell at the Red Wing store?  same stuff?

It has pine tar in it so the answer is no.
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It has pine tar in it so the answer is no.

 

You'd say not to use Montana's Pitch Blend because of the same reason, correct?

 

Edit: I found the answer in one of your previous posts. Just bought some Filson! THanks!

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Originally Posted by Crane's View Post

Needed, neither of the waterproofers can penetrate or replenish the essential oils like a good boot oil.

I have always thought it was an and/or relationship as the LP contains oils. Indeed, Obenauf's indicate that the oil can be used as touch-up between LP applications
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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post

 

Maybe because 1K's are goodyear-welted. facepalm.gif

 

...And use some of that "60 years ago" leather.

 

That article is talking about Wal-Mart tier boots. Who resoles a fused sole?

 

my limited understanding is that goodyear welts require adhesive in addition to the stitching. I guess if the adhesive doesn't need to stick to the part where the sno-seal's applied, this is irrelevant. chrome excel does use chrome salts. happily, since people in this thread seem to have had no problems with resoling it doesn't seem to be an issue.

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Originally Posted by ZenSilk View Post

 

 

New to the forums right here, been lurking a ton for a long time!

 

I actually just recently LP'd my Tan 1000's. I did not treat them right out of the box before I wore them, per Crane's rec. because I really enjoyed the color. I was worried it would be annoying, but it's a very versatile smooth and creamy color that is vibrant and goes well with my pant collection (Raw indigo denim, tan cords, various chinos, slim wool trousers). I will try to get pics ASAP (sun is starting to set here) of my boots (unfortunately no before shots). I wiped them down with a slightly damp cloth and went over them with a small dab of saddle soap. The chromexcel was still supple and well-enriched before I LP'd them, but I figured they deserved a nice tasty Obenauf's treat. Like you might be, I was worried the LP would completely change the beautiful tan color ( I have used sno-seal countless times and know what it can do). I applied two light-medium coats of LP, no hairdryer used, just the warmth of my fingers. The boots did darken, but instead of going to a darker heavy brown as I was kind of expecting, much to my delight the color change yielded a very gorgeous Copper-like color. I like it even more than the original color personally.

 

Congrats on your purchase, I'll grab some pics when I can!

 

Thanks.  I can't wait to see them and i'll probably take the same approach.   I might also half sole it as it seems bit slippery on certain surfaces.  There seems to be a lot of love on here for the brown and black 1000's but not so much for the tan.


Edited by oneTwo - 10/10/12 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by mellowllama View Post

my limited understanding is that goodyear welts require adhesive in addition to the stitching. I guess if the adhesive doesn't need to stick to the part where the sno-seal's applied, this is irrelevant. chrome excel does use chrome salts. happily, since people in this thread seem to have had no problems with resoling it doesn't seem to be an issue.

Chromexcel is chrome tanned and then it's vegetable tanned. So it's loaded with oils and waxes. I'm not sure where the confusion seems to be coming from.

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Originally Posted by oneTwo View Post

Thanks.  I can't wait to see them and i'll probably take the same approach.   I might also half sole it as it seems bit slippery on certain surfaces.  There seems to be a lot of love on here for the brown and black 1000's but no so much for the tan.

Tan is my favorite leather color. It ages oh so well. I've been trashing my brown 1Ks for a while now and will probably switch to the tan boots until the snow flies. By then they'll need to be resoled and then I'll probably go with the 721s for a while.
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Oh and I have two pairs of brown 1Ks at the store size 9.5 and 10.5 if I remember right. Anyway I don't want them sitting around so if you're looking call the store.
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Originally Posted by djwoblely View Post

I ended up buying both the Rust and Brown. They are very close to being the same color. The rust is like a shade and a half lighter maybe. I haven't put obenaufs or oil on it yet tho but I would assume it would get close to the browns color. I prefer the lighter color of the rust. Is there a way to somewhat keep them from not turning brown keeping the rust even with obenauf's or sno seal?
I ended up putting the browns on the B&S forum. I just needed to see them next to each other to decide which ones to keep.
Did you take any side by side pictures of them? My local store only has Rust so I can't make the comparison.
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How do they run sizewise? I'm usually an 11D but there are things that I think I wear in 10.5 (like clarks DBs)
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How do they run sizewise? I'm usually an 11D but there are things that I think I wear in 10.5 (like clarks DBs)

Size down.

I wear an 11 in Sneakers, 10 in Alden Indy Boots. Just got my first pair of 1000 Mile boots, got the Cortlands in black size 10.
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Originally Posted by Spencer View Post


Size down.
I wear an 11 in Sneakers, 10 in Alden Indy Boots. Just got my first pair of 1000 Mile boots, got the Cortlands in black size 10.

 

any chance you could post some pics of the courtlands?  especially some with you wearing them with jeans and chinos, from various angles.  

 

there is a nothing but product shots so far on the net.

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Originally Posted by dusttruffle View Post

 

any chance you could post some pics of the courtlands?  especially some with you wearing them with jeans and chinos, from various angles.  

 

there is a nothing but product shots so far on the net.

+1 I'd appreciate this too

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