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Edward green 888 last

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I understand that Edward Green has a (relatively) new last which has been designated 888. It appears to be chisel-toed and rather narrow. Has anyone purchased a pair of shoes made on this last? How does the width compare to say a chisel-toed "hand grade" Crockett & Jones last in an E width? I would assume that the Green is narrower at the waist.
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I haven't purchased a shoe made with this last, but I am led to understand that it is a narrower last than the other Greens; I don't know how it compares to the C&J's however.
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Edward Green's 888 last is a variation on their 808 last. The standard square toed last is 606, 808 is about 2 mm extended; therefore the shoe ends in a narrower square tip. (Most, if not all, of RLPL shoes come on this last.)  I'm not quite sure about the differences between 808 and 888, but I was led to believe that it's a bit roomier, while keeping that chisel toe look. (But I can be wrong.) A few weeks ago I have ordered my first "stock special" shoes from EG. I settled for the last 808, as this is the last I know quite well and I did not consider 888. I presume you have to try them on yourself to see which design fits you better. But, of course, unless you order a "stock special" the design of your choice might not come in the last of your choice. I believe C & J cut their shoes somewhat fuller than EG. Green's shoes are quite notorious as narrow. Yes, the waist of EG is narrower and more in keeping with the "fiddle back" of bespoke shoes. But that's more a question of aesthetic than actual fit. (I believe jcusey got recently a pair of EG in E fitting and owns also C & J "hand grades" in E. He might be the best person to advise you about his experience with the fit differences between the two makes.)
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I believe C & J cut their shoes somewhat fuller than EG. Green's shoes are quite notorious as narrow. Yes, the waist of EG is narrower and more in keeping with the "fiddle back" of bespoke shoes. But that's more a question of aesthetic than actual fit. (I believe jcusey got recently a pair of EG in E fitting and owns also C & J "hand grades" in E. He might be the best person to advise you about his experience with the fit differences between the two makes.)
I have two pairs of C&J Handgrade shoes, both on the 330 last, and two pairs of EG shoes, both on the 202 last. The first pair of C&J shoes was purchased from Ben Silver, and it, infuriatingly, has the American size marked (10D). I'm pretty sure that the actual British size is a 9.5, but I have no idea if the British width is a D or an E. In any event, those shoes are a bit narrow. I ordered the second pair of C&J shoes from Britain, and they're British 9.5Fs. They're probably too wide for me, but the roominess is very comfortable. The first pair of EG shoes is a British 9.5D, and they're even tighter than the first pair of C&J shoes. The second pair is a British 9.5E, and those shoes are appropriately sized for me.  I'm not sure what all of this verbiage means, but I think that bengal-stripe's rule of thumb that EG shoes are the narrowest English shoes on the market is accurate.
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I've been reliably informed that the 888 only differs from the 808 in that the former's toe is squarer.
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