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post #91 of 101
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Originally Posted by bawlin View Post
Have you ever driven a 1-series? I had a 128i without a manual transmission as a loaner for a couple of days during my Inspection 2 and dare I say it was almost as fun as the M3. I can't begin to imagine what the 135i would be like, and to be perfectly honest the 135i is probably the only current-generation BMW I really lust after.
Never driven one, but the 128i is significantly lighter than the 135i, and would be the one if I had to get one. The twin-turbos and the M3 are especially porky. --Andre
post #92 of 101
I trust that with a 6-speed, this is going to be *THE* BMW to own.

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As reported on 1addicts Homepage.

The M1 will differ from the standard 1er with a more muscular appearance especially at the front which receives a trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow air to cool the six piston brakes. The larger grille at the front of the car also allows air into the High Performance Intercooler. underneath the headlights the M1 follows the typical M look by having enclosed headlights or "eyebags" this helps pronounce the front of the car and providing a more sporting look than the conventional 1er Coupe.

Above the brake ducts are tiny lip spoilers that help with airflow these help with additional "Active aerodynamics" to provide downforce. The aluminium bonnet incorporates a subtle hood bulge again to hint at the power underneath flanked by two airducts at each side with one for design symmetery. The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track and to neatly fill the arches with standard 18" 5 spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels. 18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1.

The front wings incorporate the typical M characteristic of a side vent , again the M1 is no different with a slightly shorter vent due to the proportion of front door - wing- arch accomodating the turn signal and insignia. The side sills accomodate a more sculpted appearance again indentifying the car from the standard 135i or BMW performance packet.

Like the front end of the car the rear end is wider with a look that is almost similar to the transition between the previous E46 Coupe and the E46 M3 , broader wheel arches accomodate the larger track , The classic "Ducktail" appearence makes a welcome return with the spoiler now integrated as part of the bootlid for a more cohesive look and additional aid for aerodynamics.

The rear valance/diffuser area takes it's direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose , the duct is seperated by typical M quad exhaust pipes.
The roof of the car receives the typical BMW M Coupe addition of a reinforced Carbon Fibre Roof to help maintain the lightweight concept.

Summary:
More muscular appearance than standard 1-series
Trapezoid grille flanked by two intakes to allow extra brake cooling
Six piston brakes
High performance intercooler
Sportier looking headlights than standard 1-series
Small lip spoilers above brake duct inlets to provide extra air flow and downforce
The front wings of the car are massaged slightly to accomodate the wider track. Rear end is also wider.
Standard 18" 5-spoke wheels with optional 18" Competition wheels (18" will be the optimium wheel size for the M1)
Signature M side vent
Broader wheel arches to accomodate larger track
"Ducktail" CSL style rear trunk (integrated spoiler)
Rear valance/diffuser area takes its direction from the standard 135i but with open ducts for aerodynamic purpose
Signature M quad exhaust pipes
Reinforced carbon fiber roof

post #93 of 101
1-series would be more fun with a 4 cylinder and fewer bells/whistles.
post #94 of 101
People who drive BMWs are pampered pricks; performance wannabes who don't appreciate the classic nature of older designs and who are too willing to trade real driving excitement for MP3 hookups and moonrooves. I, on the other hand, am a real big-timer and driver's driver, which is why I drive this: You guys can keep your satellite radios and your air conditioning and your not-having-to-wear-a-helmet.
post #95 of 101
As an E92 M3 owner, I am eagerly awaiting test-driving one of these with a 6spd. I've driven lightly modified (bit more boost) 335s and have been very impressed by the sheer amount of torque. I assume the 335is might feel like this. Supposedly the 335is is good for 330+lb/ft of torque, and if the underrating of the 335 is any indication, this might end up being at the wheels. I would really enjoy a 6spd 335is with no other options. My first BMW was a E46 ZHP, and I loved how the car felt in comparison to the E46 M3. This reminds me of the ZHP, but with a lot more balls. Needs more alcantara though.
post #96 of 101
I cant get over 414 hp with only 300 trq, when i drive with my buddy it just seems like he really has to get on it to get it to go (into the scary territory)

This coming from a CTSV driver, which i bought explicitly to not have to get on it to get it to move...I don't want to have to wind my engine that high.
post #97 of 101
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Originally Posted by username79 View Post
I would really enjoy a 6spd 335is with no other options.
The 335is convertible configurator is up on bmwusa.com! Not interested in the convertible but nice to get a look at the car. 225Ms (euro 19" M-sport wheels) are a $1000 add-on. Leather is free. Were I in the market I'd order a Space Grey on Natural Brown, 6 spd, 225Ms. Problem: Ends up at $61K. Granted this is a convertible, but an '11 M3 coupe with competition package is $62K.
post #98 of 101
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Originally Posted by Beta View Post
I cant get over 414 hp with only 300 trq, when i drive with my buddy it just seems like he really has to get on it to get it to go (into the scary territory)

This coming from a CTSV driver, which i bought explicitly to not have to get on it to get it to move...I don't want to have to wind my engine that high.

As Americans we're used to tons of low-down torque, and in general don't like revving a lot. That's changing with younger drivers, thanks to Honda, but overall still holds true. I rev my M Coupe quite hard during spirited driving, and passengers always feel that I'm killing the car. Observing closely, 3500rpm seems to be the average anxiety point, despite that being modest speeds in 2nd or 3rd gear. At 7500rpm, it's a person of blood and iron that's not looking for a grab bar of some sort.

With the Solstice GXP, which has 340lb-ft at 2000rpm or so, this habit has me launching too quickly for most people's taste.
post #99 of 101
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Originally Posted by Beta View Post
I cant get over 414 hp with only 300 trq, when i drive with my buddy it just seems like he really has to get on it to get it to go (into the scary territory)

This coming from a CTSV driver, which i bought explicitly to not have to get on it to get it to move...I don't want to have to wind my engine that high.

its not scary if the engine is made for it. my shift point on my 8.2k redline car is 5000rpm just normal driving. it doesnt sound or feel "strained".

if i did this on a diesel or a pushrod, different story
post #100 of 101
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Originally Posted by Douglas View Post
People who drive BMWs are pampered pricks; performance wannabes who don't appreciate the classic nature of older designs and who are too willing to trade real driving excitement for MP3 hookups and moonrooves.

I, on the other hand, am a real big-timer and driver's driver, which is why I drive this:



You guys can keep your satellite radios and your air conditioning and your not-having-to-wear-a-helmet.

post #101 of 101
I love the 335, if I was in the market for a new Bimmer it's what I'd buy.

M3 is really unnecessary for a lot of people especially after you get to feel the 335.. it offers more then enough to keep most happy.

I am still driving an E46 330XI and am plenty happy... 335 would blow my mind
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