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post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by xarope
Don't the pants need a single ribbon as well? Without one, a black-tie outfit just looks... odd (I've also worn full military dress uniform #1, blue pants with a thick red-stripe... without the red stripe it just wouldn't work)

Yes, that's correct, and white tie takes a double stripe.
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by Manton
Either is OK. (Though avoid the center vent.) Probably no vents is more traditional, but side vents are fine.

When even Manton recognises that a rule can be bent, I daresay that it's a good indication that you really can get away with it.

For something you'll be sitting in quite a bit, and ideally not removing at all, vents have plenty to recommend them. But the aesthetic reasons to prefer ventless are compelling too.

I'd say, if you are having a bespoke DJ made, hopefully you can achieve a ventless model that creases as little as possible. If you're getting it off the rack, vents may be prudent.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by summej2
I agree. I rather prefer black calf to patent leather. There is historical precedence for this, as there is for the ventless dinner jacket.

Besides, if you wear a dinner jacket often then pumps would be the way to go.

I second that. Patent smacks of rented shoes these days, plus I personally find them a tad flashy, which is not what black-tie is supposed to be about, despite all the guys out there with their colorful matching (pre-tied) bow-tie and cummerbund sets.

I just went to a black-tie function thrown by one of the big accounting houses. I have never seen a worse dressed group of men in my life.
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by The False Prophet
When even Manton recognises that a rule can be bent, I daresay that it's a good indication that you really can get away with it.

For something you'll be sitting in quite a bit, and ideally not removing at all, vents have plenty to recommend them. But the aesthetic reasons to prefer ventless are compelling too.

I'd say, if you are having a bespoke DJ made, hopefully you can achieve a ventless model that creases as little as possible. If you're getting it off the rack, vents may be prudent.

I respectfully disagree. Vents just don't make sense for a dinner jacket IMHO. In a backed chair, a ventless isn't going to crease any more than a vented jacket. Plus, you're supposed to be dancing most of the night anyway . There's also no historical basis for adding the vents to the jacket . . . no horseback, no athletic endeavors, etc.
post #20 of 27
Thread Starter 
Thanks for everyones help.

I am working a bit on a budget, so I think I am going to stick with the Park Ave's but just have them shined to a high shine. I had to get a shirt custom made becasue off the rack shirts do not fit me well at all. I am 6'2" and about 155 lbs. Shirts never fit both my shoulders and then my narrow chest.

My tailor recommended closing the vent on the jacket while he was tapering it. I have fortunately found a good tailor here in Atlanta that is not rediculously priced. I am going to go ahead and have him close the single vent.

I think I am going to stick with the hand tied bow tie and cumberbun. I have never been a vest guy plus they always end up looking too big on me.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by callen
Thanks for everyones help.

I am working a bit on a budget, so I think I am going to stick with the Park Ave's but just have them shined to a high shine. I had to get a shirt custom made becasue off the rack shirts do not fit me well at all. I am 6'2" and about 155 lbs. Shirts never fit both my shoulders and then my narrow chest.

My tailor recommended closing the vent on the jacket while he was tapering it. I have fortunately found a good tailor here in Atlanta that is not rediculously priced. I am going to go ahead and have him close the single vent.

I think I am going to stick with the hand tied bow tie and cumberbun. I have never been a vest guy plus they always end up looking too big on me.


Sounds perfect, wear it all in good health.

Additional kudos for recognizing what looks good on you as opposed to just what you want to wear.
post #22 of 27
Thread Starter 
After the wedding I will post a link to the pictures. I am aiming for something very simple and classic. That way the pictures will hold up.
post #23 of 27
Thread Starter 
For the shirt I was thinking just the regular buttons, but with my sterling silver cuff links that my fiancee gave me for a birthday. Would this be acceptable or should I go with black silk knots for the cuffs? I appreciate everyones insight.

-craig
post #24 of 27
Thread Starter 
I am going with a plain white linen pocket square which of the below folds would be best?

http://www.mulberrywood.com/howtofol...quarefolds.htm

btw: this is a good link for a novice. thanks
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by callen
I am going with a plain white linen pocket square which of the below folds would be best?

http://www.mulberrywood.com/howtofol...quarefolds.htm

btw: this is a good link for a novice. thanks

TV fold is my fave for black tie ("flat" fold on that website).
post #26 of 27
I'd go with the plain square fold, like Sean Connery. As for cuffs, always go with double (French) for formal wear. I recommend either a stud set or some plain oval or circular cuff links. To me, it's a matter of personal preference if you want studs or buttons showing - just make sure the buttons look good, though.
post #27 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by callen
Thanks for everyones help.

I am working a bit on a budget, so I think I am going to stick with the Park Ave's but just have them shined to a high shine. I had to get a shirt custom made becasue off the rack shirts do not fit me well at all. I am 6'2" and about 155 lbs. Shirts never fit both my shoulders and then my narrow chest.

My tailor recommended closing the vent on the jacket while he was tapering it. I have fortunately found a good tailor here in Atlanta that is not rediculously priced. I am going to go ahead and have him close the single vent.

I think I am going to stick with the hand tied bow tie and cumberbun. I have never been a vest guy plus they always end up looking too big on me.

If there is one thing about weddings that I've learned over the years, it's that the wedding is just a party. Period. It makes absolutely no sense to spend gobs of money you don't have and drive yourself and your significant other (1.) into near bankruptcy and (2.) insane in order to have that "perfect" wedding. "Perfect" only exists in fairy tales (and not even in too many of those, either). Stick with what you have, don't get too worked up over the details, and

RELAX....

Have fun, enjoy your wedding, and remember it for the good time it was. Way too many of my friends look back on their weddings and cringe because of all the stress involved in making the day "perfect," which is a self-defeating ordeal.

As to your shoes, they'll be fine. Just get yourself a can of parade wax (both Lincoln and Kiwi make them) and use that. It has silicone in it, which increases the shine. Some say it isn't good for leather, and this may be true, but using it once in a great while for black tie won't do any damage. Now, enjoy, and congratulations!
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