A new car for <$22k

I can't believe I have to ask for car advice on a forum like this but I did a search for some car forums and I couldn't find one that was a general car discussion so there would probably be some biasness in there.

Anyway I'm 16 and I will start driving soon and my sister has a RAV4 and my mom said she'll buy another car for us. I want it to be more of a sedan and I want to drive a stickshift/manual transmission because my sister wants to try driving one too.

So what's a new car I can get for $22k? Don't try and convince me to buy used because I know you guys love buying used **** at thrift stores but my mom has said she will NOT buy a used car.

If you didn't feel like reading any of that

What's a good stickshift sedan type car for a beginner to drive?

And if you don't like answering, where's a good car forum that's dedicated to like general car discussion or maybe dedicated to driving with a stickshift?

Get a used (with a warranty) car. You're a fool not to, especially if you have a budget.

There's nothing wrong with used cars. Get something from a certified pre-owned program, it comes with a warranty just like new car. Plus you'll be able to get a much nicer car (like a BMW 3 series).

In your price range: Honda Civic; VW Golf, Jetta or Bug; Ford Focus; SMART Car (those don't have true manual transmissions); Toyota Yaris and Matrix; Nissan Sentra SE-R, Hyundai Accent, KIA Forte Coupe

Hmmmm A brand new camaro with a 300hp v6 and a stick will run about that. It will be a base one, but it looks good and has most of the right equipment.. 2011 Ford Mustang V6 will be around the same price and similar specs, but probably lighter.. I can't think of a brand new car in the same price range that would be more fun.

Originally Posted by Aaron

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In your price range: Honda Civic; VW Golf, Jetta or Bug; Ford Focus; SMART Car (those don't have true manual transmissions); Toyota Yaris and Matrix; Nissan Sentra SE-R, Hyundai Accent, KIA Forte Coupe
Yeah exactly what I said.. Not much else really..

Originally Posted by lemmywinks

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So what's a new car I can get for $22k? Don't try and convince me to buy used because I know you guys love buying used **** at thrift stores but my mom has said she will NOT buy a used car.

Originally Posted by musicguy

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Get a used (with a warranty) car. You're a fool not to, especially if you have a budget.

StyleForum - where people insist on you being used **** happens.

Originally Posted by lemmywinks

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StyleForum - where people insist on you being used **** happens.

I read your post, but it still needs to be said. Try to come up with a reason to convince your mom. I can't think of a good reason to buy a new car for your first car.

Anyway, this took 5 seconds:

http://www.lotpro.com/prices/2010/all/20000/25000

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...nder-25000.htm

My mom will give me the 'it's not your money it's my money' type of talk. Also it won't really be my car but more like a family car that they'll let me drive so it's still her car. I've tried to convince her many times because I told her I'm not comfortable with driving a brand new car but she insists that we don't buy a new car. We've had a couple of bad experiences with buying used cars so please respect that.

And yea I looked over that list but I can make 0 sense of it... That's why I asked for help.

Honda Fit

Get a Civic and be done with it.

Next time I'm not gonna mention I'm 16.

My grandmother drives a Civic. The Fit is what the Civic used to be.

Originally Posted by lemmywinks

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Don't try and convince me to buy used because I know you guys love buying used **** at thrift stores but my mom has said she will NOT buy a used car.



Screw off and drop dead until mommy stops buying your diapers.

Originally Posted by ConcernedParent

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Get a Civic and be done with it.

+1. Or an insight.

Get a Golf... great 1st car. I think you might even be able to get the GTI in that price range, and that just won Automobile Car of the Year.

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Next time I'm not gonna mention I'm 16.

If you didn't state your age and still insisted on getting a new car, we'd probably think you were marsupialed.