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post #16 of 32
6/11/06 at 4:11am
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Originally Posted by danielk
new obsession,

shirt and suit look great, congrats!

couple of questions for you or luk-cha or anyone else;

do they offer quarter lined or half lined jackets?

how were the fabric choices? any English or Italian mills?

seems a great deal, i am planning to get to hong kong sooner rather than later.

best,

dan

non branded fabric they do both ENG and IT it all depends on if you are after a brand, choices too many to look at i think is is best to go first with a type of fabric you want and a price you are willing to pay for it and then take it from there - as for 1/4 1/2 lined most should as i have all mine this way for the summer
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post #17 of 32
6/11/06 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by luk-cha
for the price you paid overall if you are happy with it then thats the main thing from my expirance you were a little over charged at HK $4500 for 1 siut and 3 shirts,

i think the balance in sleeve length looks a bit off or is that coz you have not straightened you self out before the photo? and judging from the slevedge edge they gave you the bare minimal amount of fabric - which hadded to me a cuple of time also you might find this inthe rear pockets too!

I may have overpaid, based on the advertized shirt prices domestically, I paid about $475 or so for the suit. That is less than I pay for a suit generally, not to mention the $100 plus I typically pay in tailoring. That said, Rickey wasn't there the first day, and the other guy showed me the price on a calculator and seemed to ask me if that was ok. In retrospect I should have bargained with him, or at least tried, but they were crowded and I was uncertain of my surroundings. Lesson learned, next time I would at least try.

Balance in sleeve length is probably because I was holding my right ar further out from my side than my left.
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post #18 of 32
6/12/06 at 12:25pm
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Incidentally, my understanding is that they will do suits by mail with the measurements they have on file. I think that might be my next experiment.
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post #19 of 32
6/12/06 at 12:42pm
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...just that my wife liked it.
Always, always, always decide for yourself. Cannot stress this enough. It looks nice though.
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post #20 of 32
6/12/06 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by Jovan
It looks nice though.

Any stylistic suggestions?
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post #21 of 32
6/12/06 at 12:50pm
Er, for what? The style all in all is good. I guess I forgot to ask: Pleats? I'd assume from there being cuffs, but you never know.
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post #22 of 32
6/12/06 at 12:56pm
new obsession, Shirt and suit look very nice. My only remark would be that I fond the shoulders on the shirt a tad too wide. Then again, I have been known to agonize for hours in front of my mirror on shoulders. I really cannot decide exactly where they should sit (yes, I know the rule-of-thumb).
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post #23 of 32
6/12/06 at 1:16pm
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Originally Posted by Jovan
Er, for what? The style all in all is good. I guess I forgot to ask: Pleats? I'd assume from there being cuffs, but you never know.

Yes, pleats.
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post #24 of 32
6/12/06 at 1:18pm
Forward or reverse?
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post #25 of 32
6/12/06 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jovan
Forward or reverse?

As I understand it, reverse pleats open away from the front of the pants (and are generally the American standard pleat), and forward pleats open towards the front. BY that definition there are double reverse pleats.
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post #26 of 32
6/12/06 at 1:33pm
Oh... somehow I thought HK tailors did forward pleats as standard. Personally I think they look way better, but just my humble opinion.
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post #27 of 32
6/12/06 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by Jovan
Always, always, always decide for yourself. Cannot stress this enough. It looks nice though.

I'll second that. I love the fabric and would wear it myself in a heartbeat. It is, though, a bit bold, and some people might not be comfortable with it. If that's the case, the wearer's reticence often shows.
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post #28 of 32
6/12/06 at 2:37pm
It looks *great*, and at < $500 is just incredible. I've seen MTM at 4 times that price come out much worse here in NY, USA.

The only thing I'd note is that the cuffs of the shirt, as well as the suit, seem a little large. The length of the shirt sleeves is great, but I'd make the cuff a little tighter. Maybe this would be for the whole sleeve too: just a little narrower.

But really, that's very very nice for the price you paid for it. I'm very surprised others aren't echoing this.

I've heard of some tailors using the edge of the bolt with the identifiers on it somewhere in their suits as a way of proving they used the genuine article.
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post #29 of 32
6/12/06 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Teacher
I'll second that. I love the fabric and would wear it myself in a heartbeat. It is, though, a bit bold, and some people might not be comfortable with it. If that's the case, the wearer's reticence often shows.

My wife's involvment in the decision has nothing to do with my doubts about wearing it. It has more to do with the fact that when surrounded by too many options my brain tends to shut down. Sort of a sensory overload thing.

Something different happened with the Chan suit I had made. My wife liked the fabric, and I was unsure about it. I still am. But my reticence there might also be linked to the fact that after one wearing I think some alterations still need to be made for comfort and fit. I plan to post pics of that suit soon, and will need some serious advice.
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post #30 of 32
6/12/06 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by minimal
It looks *great*, and at < $500 is just incredible. I've seen MTM at 4 times that price come out much worse here in NY, USA.

The only thing I'd note is that the cuffs of the shirt, as well as the suit, seem a little large. The length of the shirt sleeves is great, but I'd make the cuff a little tighter. Maybe this would be for the whole sleeve too: just a little narrower.

But really, that's very very nice for the price you paid for it. I'm very surprised others aren't echoing this.

I've heard of some tailors using the edge of the bolt with the identifiers on it somewhere in their suits as a way of proving they used the genuine article.

I agree as to the shirt cuffs, I had them made very large. The first time they were snug, and the second time they were still snug, resulting in a sleeve length that was too short for my liking, so I measured a brooks brothers OTR shirt I had with me and said match it. Thereby resulting in the sleeve length I wanted, because it wasn't getting hung up on my wrist, but resulting in a pretty big cuff.
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