Fair Price and General Fit of Ravazzolo

I'm considering a medium grey solid RTW Ravazzolo suit and was quoted 2200 including all alterations. The price on the tag was 2860. The suit fits fairly decent but would definitely require some work in the body and potentially in the shoulders. I am between a 38 and a 40 and also between a regular and a short. The suit that I am looking at is a 40R but I noticed that Ravazzolo is cut a bit shorter than Canali which I am used to. The manager at the store was confident in his tailors skills and mentioned that an alteration could be done to bring in the shoulders slightly if I wanted by removing some fabric in the center of the jacket. I have been taught that shoulder alterations should not be done but he made it seem like this was a fairly common and easy alteration. Pants fit decent but I am more concerned with the rise than the waist. The pants were a 7 inch drop. I am new to the brand and was hoping to get opinions on the price as well as the overall fit of Ravazzolo. I have an athletic build and at times have problems with the arm holes of some other brands being to narrow. I have even opted at time to go to a tighter fitting 38 just because I know it would require less work overall. The Ravazzolo seemed generous in the arms but I am a bit concerned with the adjustments. Wish I could have taken some pics but I was without my phone. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance!

that suit sounds too generously cut for you - if the shoulders don't fit, a tailor can't do much, same with the arms

a much better solution, depending on where you live and time frame, is to check the travel schedule for WW Chan or one of the other good Hong Kong tailors and have them make a suit for you from scratch

starter suits are around $1,100 and will fit a lot better than that Ravazzolo and you get to choose better fabrics and details

why buy off the rack for $2,200 when you can do much better having it made for you directly for half the cost?

(unless of course you need it sooner, because you will have to wait 3-4 mths to receive a suit from WW Chan if you order on their next tour)

Agree with NorCal. $2200 is alot for a RTW suit but Ravazzolo does fit pretty true to size. The patterns and fabrics are very nice.

Originally Posted by dragon8

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Agree with NorCal. $2200 is alot for a RTW suit but Ravazzolo does fit pretty true to size. The patterns and fabrics are very nice.

I agree. I wish the price was better. Hmmm...any other suggestions? Unfortunately, I don't have the 3-4 months to wait for custom.

Am I getting ripped off?

No, I don't think you're getting ripped off. Its a fair price IMO. I have a MTM Sartoria Partenopea for about $2850 which fits great. The coat is tighter than usual but it looks really good.

I 'd personally would go the HK tailor route for roughly half the price and a better fit that RTW. Where are you located?

there's a ravazzolo beauty on virtualclotheshorse in a olive/black/brown sort of nailhead/textured pattern that is very nice but the cut of it is a little generous will need alot of tailoring. cost is 699 i believe

Ravazzolo and Chan - apples and oranges. I am always puzzled by members who are quick to suggest taking WW Chan or other traveling tailors route:
Ravazzolo is an Italian brand, referred to sometimes as Roman style, same as Brioni, but at a much lower price point. They make a very nice garment, for those who prefer the style. When you buy RTW, you get what you see, in your case pending alterations. Anyway, it is relatively a short time.
WW Chan is from China and they will meet you, take your measurements and you'll have to wait for their next visit, which is about 3 months. For a first suit, at least one fitting is recommended, which doubles the waiting time to 6 months. There are members who had to wait one year for their first suit. Are you willing to wait that long? Chan do not have a "solid" house style, but will provide what you are asking for, with different degrees of success. The advantage is that with them, you have more options, including your choice of fabric and at the end the suit will fit fairly well, (but not always as you envisioned it). However, if down the road you'll need alterations, you'll have to wait for their next visit plus 3 more months, which in my opinion is quite unacceptable.
Ravazzolo makes a mid price level Italian suit, significantly lower then Brioni or Kiton, but as always, Chinese made products are still cheaper. Also, because Ravazzolo has US presence, alterations aren't a problem.

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No, I don't think you're getting ripped off. Its a fair price IMO. I have a MTM Sartoria Partenopea for about $2850 which fits great. The coat is tighter than usual but it looks really good.

I 'd personally would go the HK tailor route for roughly half the price and a better fit that RTW. Where are you located?

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Ravazzolo and Chan - apples and oranges. I am always puzzled by members who are quick to suggest taking WW Chan or other traveling tailors route:
Ravazzolo is an Italian brand, referred to sometimes as Roman style, same as Brioni, but at a much lower price point. They make a very nice garment, for those who prefer the style. When you buy RTW, you get what you see, in your case pending alterations. Anyway, it is relatively a short time.
WW Chan is from China and they will meet you, take your measurements and you'll have to wait for their next visit, which is about 3 months. For a first suit, at least one fitting is recommended, which doubles the waiting time to 6 months. There are members who had to wait one year for their first suit. Are you willing to wait that long? Chan do not have a "solid" house style, but will provide what you are asking for, with different degrees of success. The advantage is that with them, you have more options, including your choice of fabric and at the end the suit will fit fairly well, (but not always as you envisioned it). However, if down the road you'll need alterations, you'll have to wait for their next visit plus 3 more months, which in my opinion is quite unacceptable.
Ravazzolo makes a mid price level Italian suit, significantly lower then Brioni or Kiton, but as always, Chinese made products are still cheaper. Also, because Ravazzolo has US presence, alterations aren't a problem.

I'm new to the brand and really don't know all that much about Ravazzolo. From the comments I've gotten they seem to make a good garment. Are there different lines and cuts within the brand? I'm wondering if a different cut or line within Ravazzolo might fit me better. I have a fairly stocky build. Bigger shoulders and chest but short - only 5'8. I have stayed within the Canali space so this would be a step up in quality (from what I hear) and definitely price. Some have commented that this is expensive for OTR. As long as I'm getting good "value" I think I will be okay with the purchase. Orig price 2860 down to 2200. Thanks again guys!

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I'm new to the brand and really don't know all that much about Ravazzolo. From the comments I've gotten they seem to make a good garment. Are there different lines and cuts within the brand? I'm wondering if a different cut or line within Ravazzolo might fit me better. I have a fairly stocky build. Bigger shoulders and chest but short - only 5'8. I have stayed within the Canali space so this would be a step up in quality (from what I hear) and definitely price. Some have commented that this is expensive for OTR. As long as I'm getting good "value" I think I will be okay with the purchase. Orig price 2860 down to 2200. Thanks again guys!

I don't really know if Ravazzolo makes different lines or not. This is definitely a step up from Canali.

Another option might be to ask the retailer if he carries MTM in Ravazzolo. That way tailoring will not be a problem if you are a hard fit. Some places will not add an upcharge and they begin at $2200 depending on fabric, at least in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I probably would have gotten a Ravazzolo suit instead of a partenopea but the allure of Neopolitan tailoring got to me and I caved. I also thought the suit looked "boxy" on me.

Originally Posted by dragon8

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I don't really know if Ravazzolo makes different lines or not. This is definitely a step up from Canali.

Another option might be to ask the retailer if he carries MTM in Ravazzolo. That way tailoring will not be a problem if you are a hard fit. Some places will not add an upcharge and they begin at $2200 depending on fabric, at least in the San Francisco Bay Area.

I probably would have gotten a Ravazzolo suit instead of a partenopea but the allure of Neopolitan tailoring got to me and I caved. I also thought the suit looked "boxy" on me.

The suit I am trying on definitely needs some work. By boxy do you mean the shouklders looked boxy....due to padding?

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The suit I am trying on definitely needs some work. By boxy do you mean the shouklders looked boxy....due to padding?

Yes, the shoulders make me looked boxy but then again their could be several models. See if they have MTM so there will be a better fit.

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Yes, the shoulders make me looked boxy but then again their could be several models. See if they have MTM so there will be a better fit.


Thanks for your help. I'll ask him although I feel like he would have mentioned it already. Thanks again.

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Thanks for your help. I'll ask him although I feel like he would have mentioned it already. Thanks again.

If you are in the SF Bay Area there is a place in Sausalito that carries it.

I bought a ravazzolo hand tailored from itaily silk sportscoat at bellagio las vegas. I paid 3800 for it. i was wondering if anybody knew how i could sell it and what i might could get for it??