Originally Posted by Kyoung05
With Val Kilmer? I've saw it a few years back - liked it a lot. Speaking of underrated, I think Kilmer is very underrated as an actor. What say you?
Agree, definitely. With the right script, he's amazing and Spartan might just be his finest performance ever. Some actors were born to do Mamet, I'd include Val in that club. And how good is he in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang! (also kinda underrated in the sense that very few people saw it, but most who did love it)
Originally Posted by Sesame Seed
I would have it somewhere near the bottom of the Mamet pile.
Not a large pile, but along with Homicide, Spartan is right there at the top in my opinion. As a film it's got serious flaws as there are parts of the plot that make very little sense after you figure out what the hell actually happens in the film and the ending is a disappointment after everything that came before (however, the closing shot is brilliant), but everything else makes up for those. Val's performance, the abstract nature of Mamet's dialogue (he works very, very well with the kind of clipped military lingo that makes up a sizeable portion of what's being said in the film) and the whole structure of the film. Especially everything in the first hour or so is amazing. Kinda loses it's steam after the meet with the chinaman, but fantastic filmmaking nonetheless.