Originally Posted by edmorel
For me as a value guy, I've spent some time trying to find my "sweet spot" in terms of price/quality for ties and in the process I came to the conclusion that some of the most expensive, well known ties (save a few) are not good ties relative to their peers. At the top of the bad value heap I place Kiton, as I feel that there printed and woven ties are really not conparable to many others and at over $200 are just a bad value. I do think they make a very nice cashmere and a nice wool tie. Brioni, I find, is strong across the board. Great printed silks, great wovens, awesome cashmere ties. Kiton can't hold a candle to them. Borrelli makes very nice woven ties, but their printed silks feel cheap. They make very good cashmere ties. Stefano Ricci makes great printed and woven ties, but the patterns are usually an issue. Marinella, for me, does nothing that isn't being done by Drakes/H&B/Battistoni and given the ease of getting those three at a discount and the fact that Marinella's never go on sale here in NYC, I no longer own nor will I be purchasing any Marinella's. Isaia, I find, is weak in ties at least relative to the quality of their suits/jackets. Patterns are iffy and they seem to use a thinner silk than other brands. Also, not a lot of attention goes into their keepers, labels and while that doesn't really matter for a tie, I like to see a well sewn on label and keeper. Charvet is strong across the board, especially wovens, but there is the well known issue of their delicacy. Turnbull makes a great British tie, and their grenadines are as classic as you can get. Ferragamo makes a very nice woven tie and their prints are no worse than the Hermes stuff, neither of which I care for. Bulgari for me makes the nicest Hermes/Ferragamo type prints, but again, just not my preference. As I have stated here before, H&B wovens are my absolute favorite ties and I just have not found anything that comes close to them in terms of price/quality.
I agree with most of what you said with the exception of some Kiton woven 7-folds and Borrelli prints. I'm wearing a kiton woven now and while I wouldn't pay $200 for it, it's a very nice tie for ~ $80 and I don't think you can say it's not as good as others; probably not worth the kiton premium but still nice ties. Also, I have a couple of Borrelli prints and and while the silks don't have the heft of the 50oz twill used by H&B and Drake's (no one else uses that silk I think), it's still great and I will even say that the construction is better than H&B and Drakes.
I just bought this Borrelli 7-fold print (but haven't received it yet) so I'll say more about this when it arrives:
What do you think of this Borrelli though?http://cgi.ebay.com/NeckTie-Borrelli...QQcmdZViewItem