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post #106 of 154
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Originally Posted by thewildpig View Post
Why do people wear a watch? So they know what the time is at ALL times.

Wrong.
post #107 of 154
I happen to particularly like, for lack of a better example, the heavy silk and drape of Carlo Francos. Any particular tie that has similar silk and characteristics? Someone said Drake but for whatever reason I didn't like them when I felt and held them.
post #108 of 154
not sure how there are people who ordered in 2005 who have not gotten their CF ties, but you got your right away.
post #109 of 154
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
It is the shape of the tie and the knot more than anything else. This is what Angelo of the LL and Noveporte said. I don't disagree with him, although I find his words stronger than what I would say myself.



n.b. I had to post this for Ed's sake

In my opinion Rubinacci' s ties are among the most beautiful ties to wear; it is not possible to understand immediately the quality of their artisan handcrafting as well the peculiarity of their shape and design. Mariano has started again now in manufacturing ties according to the same criteria used in his Naples Via Filangieri Premise more than half century ago.Indeed they are generally unlined and give a very small knot as the diameter of the anterior tie leg is around 8 cm and no > 8.5 cm . In my opinion they represent the arrival and not the starting point along a gentleman's journey in the world of elegance, and need a superior good taste to be loved, differently from Marinella' s ties that are much more easily appreciated. A sophisticated connoisseur will distinguish them among all the others.

Jesus, when I read stuff like that it makes me want to choke the person. I don't know Angelo and he's probably a nice guy but give me an effing break. "You are too stupid to understand why these ties are great and your lack of taste and sophistication is why you wear crap like Marinella"

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Originally Posted by threadbare View Post
Excellent collection. Who makes the fourth from the left that looks like a grenadine?

Brioni I think. All the ties in the pic are either Brioni, Borrelli or Holliday and Brown
post #110 of 154
^Doesn't Rubinacci know he just needs to make all of his ties blue?
post #111 of 154
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post
..... Jesus, when I read stuff like that it makes me want to choke the person. I don't know Angelo and he's probably a nice guy but give me an effing break. "You are too stupid to understand why these ties are great and your lack of taste and sophistication is why you wear crap like Marinella"....


I think Angelo Nocera's writing style does not translate that well into English. However, I think what he MEANS is that most people are used to the standard tie constrution, and when they first see an unlined 7 fold that is handsewn, they are not sure what to make of it. They may like it, but not understand immediately WHY it is different.
post #112 of 154
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Originally Posted by T4phage View Post

I think Angelo Nocera's writing style does not translate that well into English. However, I think what he MEANS is that most people are used to the standard tie constrution, and when they first see an unlined 7 fold that is handsewn, they are not sure what to make of it. They may like it, but not understand immediately WHY it is different.

I figured something was lost in translation. Also, you have to like a small knot, like iammatt does, to like these ties. I won't get into whether a small knot or larger knot is better, as everyone knows that a larger knot is obviously better
post #113 of 154
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Originally Posted by AlanC View Post
^Doesn't Rubinacci know he just needs to make all of his ties blue?

You can lead a horse to water...............
post #114 of 154
For the record I like a small knot at times.
post #115 of 154
T4phage: I'm pretty sure I have the blue version of that green AM tie you posted. Great tie! Got it from Ian.

BTW, Ian showed his great customer service yet again. I was bidding on a couple of Barba shirts and the bids were getting high when I noticed he had the same ones at his shopthefinest site. I e-mailed him and asked if I could withdraw my bids, order those two and also a third one I liked and he could ship all with another AM tie I won on ebay. He said no problem and the transaction went very smoothly. Yet another contrast to CF. Sure, he also sold an extra shirt but that's what customer service returns for the seller who provides such excellent service. Being an excellent businessman and giving great service must coexist.
post #116 of 154
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Originally Posted by bachbeet View Post
T4phage: I'm pretty sure I have the blue version of that green AM tie you posted. Great tie! Got it from Ian......

I just had a look at his site. From what I could see, the ties there were not seven fold, nor were the edges of the tie handsewn.
post #117 of 154
Well, I am new to this forum, and have been reading it for a couple of weeks.

In personal experience, I have always gravitated more to the Zegna's (from my overall collection I would say Zegna amounts for 50%), which I find are the best for your buck, in terms of overall silk quality, construction and design. Lately, I have also been purchasing some Brioni 2007's, and I definitely like their luxurious finish and silk quality. However, although I know that Zegna is a marketing machine, I love their general style an aesthetic (a combination of traditional neapolitan style with a little modern flare).

For whimsical designs and colors, nothing beats Hermes and Ferragamo, although their overall quality may be a little suspect (don't like the knots). I work at a conservative law firm in Central America, and these types of ties are among the most sought out by lawyers and high executives. However, I note that the majority in this forum don't like them and feel they are overpriced and hyped.

In terms of superior 7 fold ties, I also own some EZ Couture which appear as 7 folds. Does anyone know if Zegna Couture's are in fact 7fold? In any case, I love their thickness and overall drape, and they make the best knots.
post #118 of 154
Welcome to the forum!

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Originally Posted by ZgnaBoy View Post
In terms of superior 7 fold ties, I also own some EZ Couture which appear as 7 folds. Does anyone know if Zegna Couture's are in fact 7fold? In any case, I love their thickness and overall drape, and they make the best knots.

6/7 folds (I'll let the experts describe the proper differences) are easy to spot as they are often unlined:


post #119 of 154
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
That would shock me. I think that the patterns are based on vintage silks, but I really have no idea.

Just recounting what I (think...) I was told at their London store.
post #120 of 154
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Originally Posted by TheHoff View Post
Wrong.

Well, guess what? That's why I wear one. That's all that matters.
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