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post #136 of 208
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
I like it. I've been listening to some contemporary soul lately, Always nice to go back and listen to the music that was being produced while it was more in mainstream in popular culture. The James Carr story is an interesting one too.

All that being said, a couple of the melodies in some of the songs remind me of other songs. I was wondering if for example, Coming Back To Me Baby was Somehow related to the Temptations - Ain't Too Proud To Beg.

Looks like they came out in the same year. Any info?
Maybe just a coincidence?

I noticed the same. "That's What I Want to Know" is reminiscent of Four Tops' "I Can Help Myself," which apparently came out a year before. If you've ever listened to the Nuggets compilation, you sort of notice the same thing where lesser known artists seem to resemble more famous artists. I don't know if it's an actual rip off or if it was unintentional, but it seems to have been common. Maybe the pool of songwriters back then was much smaller, maybe some overlap is to be expected.

Then again, current pop music is rife with the same ripoffs, beyond sampling. I remember thinking the Yin-Yang Twins' "Whisper" beat seeming awfully similar to "Drop It Like It's Hot." Ke$ha (very poorly) rips off Uffie and Avenue D, then you have Foo Fighters' "Freewheelin'," which is too close to Tom Petty's "Learning To Fly" for comfort. Maybe it's only when you're looking back from a distance that similarities in songs can seem so curious.
post #137 of 208
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post
This week's album:

James Carr
You Got My Mind Messed Up
1967
Southern Soul



Working Torrent @ pirate bay

fantastic selection Stephen. Thanks!

The first album I will actually keep so far.
post #138 of 208
The beginning of one song reminded me very much of Otis Redding's I've Got Dreams to Remember, although it seems that it was written before (1967 vs. 1968). I can't remember the name of Carr's song, but they both have a reverberating guitar chord in the beginning. I keep expecting Otis to come chiming in...
post #139 of 208
I think it's important to note the culture of sampling in soul and country music. Personally, I really like that artists can make their own versions of classic standards. I think that personifies the goal of soul and blues, which are based in an interdependent culture that attempt to emphasize the feelings of common people as opposed to the more rebellious and individualistic rock and punk cultures that are more interested in social criticism and self identity. There are very few cover songs of rock songs that appeal to me, but I don't think I've ever head a bad cover of "Reflections" or "People Get Ready."
post #140 of 208
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I think it's important to note the culture of sampling in soul and country music.

That's a good point, I didn't even think to consider the idea of standards that is prevalent in blues/jazz/gospel/soul/etc.

In any case, enjoyable album.
post #141 of 208
fantastic album. i've been listening to a lot of neo-soul, r&b from the soulquarian crew and it's nice to hear from the roots of the movement.
post #142 of 208
^ are you copying me?
post #143 of 208
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Originally Posted by StephenHero View Post
I think it's important to note the culture of sampling in soul and country music. Personally, I really like that artists can make their own versions of classic standards. I think that personifies the goal of soul and blues, which are based in an interdependent culture that attempt to emphasize the feelings of common people as opposed to the more rebellious and individualistic rock and punk cultures that are more interested in social criticism and self identity. There are very few cover songs of rock songs that appeal to me, but I don't think I've ever head a bad cover of "Reflections" or "People Get Ready."

This paragraph is just all sorts of bizarre. "Standards" and covers /= "culture of sampling." "Punk culture" is rife with covers - honoring a little known band, putting a spin on a genre classic, sending up a song that isn't respected in the punk/indie world, etc.

You don't really see mainstream rock bands get away from covers and standards until the mid-70s (I guess you could say the era of the 'rock auteur' songwriter was born) - the Stones and Beatles built their career on it, Zeppelin ripped off old bluesmen left and right, soul versions of rock hits were common, everyone covered and borrowed from each other, etc..
post #144 of 208
The similar sounds owe much more to the way southern soul was produced - even aside from label-specific sounds (ie the MGs backing everyone on Stax), there were certain producers/songwriters/studios that worked with everyone and put their stamp on the music as much as the individual performers.
post #145 of 208
I really liked this week's album. If it was a wine, I'd say it's quaffable. Thought the licks on "Loveable Girl' during the verses accenting Carr's lyrics were fantastic - very chunky. I also picked up the similarities between some of the songs on the album and other soul standards (Four Tops, etc), but I think it's more by virtue of the fact that there was a dearth of chord progressions/key changes for pop music at the time - same can be said of a lot of early Rock or R&B.
post #146 of 208
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
^ are you copying me?

Yes I am! I am your biggest online stalker fan. I try to emulate all that you embody in all that I write on the interwebz.

joking aside I've been listening to Jil Scott, Erykah Badu, and Bilal a lot and really appreciated this week's album.

-_- I really can't wait until it's my turn to recommend something.
post #147 of 208
Listened to the album last night and really liked it. I haven't heard too much of that genre so I can't give a good criticism.
post #148 of 208
Been listening the this weeks album all night, can anyone reccommend more similar artist(old school), please.

I just couldn't get into last weeks album.
post #149 of 208
Very cool, Stephen. Thanks! I love finding new people like this.

Kept reminding me of Otis Redding- who I love. I wonder if they were they around about the same time, or if one was before the other.
post #150 of 208
Am going to start following/participating in this thread, just getting the James Carr album now. What day of the week is a new album chosen? And might I ask how?
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