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Originally Posted by niidawg3 View Post
and you people thought i was harsh .... lol.



I was sending this via PM, but might as well put it out there .... (my reputation is already shot anyways ... lol)

In my experience, Jos A Bank cuts a poor coat, especially in the shoulders, chest and lapels. Orgetorix is the only person i have seen on here in a JAB suit that looked pretty damn good. He might be able to chime in on the year ... they may have had more quality stuff in the past.

SB - you may spend some money making this fit a little better - but trust me, 1-2 years from now (maybe sooner) you will look back at these pictures and cringe.

My radical advice is to spend a little time browsing the archives of this thread, as well as the first one (if its still available) After a while, you will see what constitutes good fit, specifically:

1. Collar
2. Shoulders
3. Chest
4. Length
5. Quarters
6. Armholes
7. Trouser shape/line/break

Look for the pictures that make you go wow in terms of fit (trust me, there are tons of good examples out there) ... and use those as a benchmark. You may not get there, but my goal is always to get as close as possible and not settle for less if i can avoid it. Check out the FOOFed thread for ideas and further detailed explanation of why he makes changes to some things. You may accept some and discard others, but you will get a better idea of the baseline rules ... and then start hunting for suit makers/models that will fit as close to you ideally hope they fit.

IMO make things like Shoulders, Chest, Buttoning Point and length your priority when looking. Those are the hardest/impossible to alter. Work with your tailor from there (who hopefully is malleable yet competent enough to work with you to a common ground).

Just walk into all sorts of shops and stuff trying things on to get an idea of what diff brands offer, then nail down a few that give you the basic fit OTR.

You will find yourself finding less things you like in general, irrespective of where you shop, which is good (albeit frustrating). IMO, that just means, you have gained a beter appreciation of what works well for you in terms of fit.

Then start deal hunting, if that is the path you want to go. At least now, you will be deal hunting with a good idea of what to pass up and what to take a chance on.

Financially, it may run you a little more but eventually you will be a lot happier with your entire wardrobe.


At best this analysis is out of touch. At worst it is wrong. I think Sugarbutch looks pretty damn good in that suit, particularly given the excellent tie he's paired it with. He got it for $2, and I guarantee if he would have called it "Golden Fleece" or "Oxxford" he would have gotten a different response.
post #35027 of 37077
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Originally Posted by HalfCanvas View Post
At best this analysis is out of touch. At worst it is wrong. I think Sugarbutch looks pretty damn good in that suit, particularly given the excellent tie he's paired it with. He got it for $2, and I guarantee if he would have called it "Golden Fleece" or "Oxxford" he would have gotten a different response.

This is bullshit,OK?
post #35028 of 37077
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post
The perceived length might be affected by having the camera above eye level
Yeah, I suspected as much. Try again with a much lower camera placement. I agree with your own assessment about the waist and trouser cuffs, and the jacket might even be a little boxy in the chest, too, but I think you'll get better advice with a few more shots from different angels, especially if you lower the camera quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by meblJ View Post
Oooo! Are behind-the-wheel shots making a comeback? They were all the rage way back when I first started lurking in this thread.
post #35029 of 37077
Zegna reversible jacket
Brioni polo
DG pant
MD belt
Pantherella socks
Gucci balmorals
CC cologne
GP watch
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post #35031 of 37077
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Originally Posted by meblJ View Post
I appreciate the critique of what you can't see. Very constructive.

Well, what did you expect? The fit is hard to judge from those photos. I thought I was pretty constructive without elaborating too much.

The suit is too big for you, you need to size down. Constructive? Check.

The tie knot is sloppy. You need to learn a tighter four-in-hand like SpooPoker ties. Constructive? Check.

Criticizing shoes that I couldn't see? Not really constructive, but I couldn't resist anyway...

I meant no offense, really. I apologize if that sounded harsh, but it's the truth. However, these are all my opinions and may or may not be correct. For reference, I prefer a tighter fit.
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Since it is nostalgia week on Style Forum. Clothing from the paleolithic era.

post #35033 of 37077
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Originally Posted by HalfCanvas View Post
At best this analysis is out of touch. At worst it is wrong. I think Sugarbutch looks pretty damn good in that suit, particularly given the excellent tie he's paired it with. He got it for $2, and I guarantee if he would have called it "Golden Fleece" or "Oxxford" he would have gotten a different response.

You are flat wrong. Nii's critique is spot on. The simple fact is that this is not a flattering cut on Sugarbutch. He is a large dude, and the cut on this suit is extremely blocky. It has no waist suppression, the quarters are totally closed and it is looks dated. With all due respect to SB, this cut does nothing to accentuate the positives and everything to accentuate the negatives of his body type. It makes him look like Spongebob. It would not matter if it was from Sears or Kiton, it does not work. He needs a radical new approach to his suits and jackets, because he is suffering from this problem on most of them.

Mike
post #35034 of 37077
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Originally Posted by niidawg3 View Post
and you people thought i was harsh .... lol.

I was sending this via PM, but might as well put it out there .... (my reputation is already shot anyways ... lol)

AS is right, just the tie is JosAB. The suit is Hart Schaffner Marx, but I don't think that makes much difference to the essence of your critique. I appreciate what you're saying about general principles, and I definitely shoot for those. I have some snugger SCs/suits that I think would probably photograph better, but they aren't that comfortable. And as soon as I put my wallet/phone/etc. in the pockets, they get kinda bulgy because there isn't enough room between my (soft-ish) body and the garment.

Upon further reflection, I think the issues with this jacket start with the shoulders. I think they're probably a bit too wide for me. I bought the suit here on SF, so I had only the measurements to go by, and this is what I got. I like the suit, though, so I might try the alterationist UC suggested to me and see what can be done. Interestingly, I just got another suit with very similar measurements, but the width of the shoulders seems completely different. Live and learn, I guess.

I do appreciate the feedback, though. Like a lot of new posters probably, I've been excited to post and get a little dap (it feels good, right?), but ultimately, I love the clothes, and I want mine to show me at my best. If the fit ain't right, I need to confront it.
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Originally Posted by MBreinin View Post
He is a large dude

Ouch.

I guess I need to keep running...
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Since it is nostalgia week on Style Forum. Clothing from the paleolithic era.


Minnis?
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Originally Posted by tesuquegolfer View Post
Recently went the way of the buzz myself and have had to find suitable head protection this winter. Very tough for me when wearing something a little more formal.

Methinks that "suitable head protection" meant knit skull caps, which do the insulation job very well, but the style factor may be deficient with a suit, if I read you correctly.

Had I a square jaw and prominent bone structure, having a buzz or shaving my head (not a low-maintenance 'do, BTW, from what I've been told by those who style themselves so) might well be an option, but I am possesed of a large squash of a skull, combined with the bone structure of the Pillsbury Doughboy, which does not lend itself to my becoming the next Bruce Willis.
post #35038 of 37077
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post
Ouch.

I guess I need to keep running...

No offense intended, but a waif you aren't. I am no 36R either, so I am familiar with some of the things you may be dealing with.

Mike
post #35039 of 37077
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Since it is nostalgia week on Style Forum. Clothing from the paleolithic era.


Nice, I like it all. What's the style distinction(s) between Solito and the younger? Shame their international travel is dicey.
post #35040 of 37077
Awesome suit, manton. Are you extremely tall and skinny or is it the DB jacket that makes you look like that?
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