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- B



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If I told you that Glitter, starting Mariah Carrie was a horrible movie, would you ask me how me movies I've made?

Every time a disjointed looked gets negative comments, the first defense is " you just don't like color"

JP - if o/o or PG criticized Spoozy and Scorcsh i am sure (could be wrong here ... lol) they will be likelier to listen. Obviously if they dont listen then it is what it is. my point is not the criticism, cos i have criticized Spoozy a few times myself .... it is who it is coming from.

Spoo has taken great strides in his color/pattern coordination. I believe it was directly because he was criticized by people whose opinions he respected. You guys are expecting people to take opinions from someone they dont respect.

It rarely happens.

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Originally Posted by polar-lemon View Post
+1

Though Diavolo has posted no pics, the consistency and nature of his comments, combined with the combinations he cites as most worthy of praise, clearly indicate his high level of taste. You may not share that same taste with him, but given his eye's level of refinement, there's almost always some truth to his comments, even if he phrases them less-than-diplomatically or in a way that seems to dismiss as incorrect all other opinions/views.

so you can deduce someone's level of refinement from his constant praise of greys/blues/whites? Show me when he has praised anything outside of a fit with grey/blue/white.

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Originally Posted by fritzl View Post
can't speak for these two guys and understood that there's a parallel world with spoozy on the german forum, where sander and me talk to him in our mother tongue... ...with no avail

i stand with d's comment about spoozy is a junior and deep in the trial and error process. nvm.

for me, it's less his colour and pattern mix, than the mix of fabrics. in general, this needs a lot of development and i'm speaking from personal experience. look, listen and learn(btw a very popular book for english lessons, when i was a schoolboy)

probably the opinion of a person that doesn't post pictures a lot is difficult to evaluate and i can understand if it wouldn't weigh in for you guys.

it's just clothes, but we love them...

nii, today's outfit is pure money. btw, i have a similar monk and it was my first and last foray in the world of monks, though i get compliments from males, huh it's my one monk and i love him.

well - maybe there is history there, so let me stop defending Spoozy and Scorch. Maybe i am naive in assuming that if someone with more credibility criticized them, they will find more value in it.

i just dont believe Diavolo is that person.

Trini - what is the advice that Diavolo gave you? Can you share? Cos maybe there is great advice he has given that i am missing.
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I think patterns and colors can be matched to look good. I think some people...do it it well.
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Originally Posted by niidawg3 View Post

Getting my Prince On ... with F U pocket square n all ... lol



You. Go. Boy.
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post
I think I've said this before but Diavolo's feedback may have been the single best thing I've gotten out of this forum.

More people need to step back and think about what he's saying instead of having a knee-jerk defensive reaction.

Oh, so what am I, chopped liver?
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Here is my take on it:

Well, yes, exactly. Many of my fits that went by with crickets chirping were the cause in fact of blowjobs. Blowjobs rank above internet praise.

Spoo, feel free to adopt as sig.

Mike
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- B

STFU mannequin man.
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I find it interesting that so many people get angered when people make negative comments towards looks posted here. Part of the reason most people post is to get comments on what they are wearing. Negative comments don't have to be insulting (as to which I think started this whole discussion), but ultimately who cares?

I have had negative comments said against what I wear - do I agree with all of it? No. I like the way I dress, and am comfortable with it. On the other hand, there are the odd comments, where I am unsure of things, or I wouldn't have thought of something that way, that I really take as valuable.

Personally, do I agree with how Spoozy dresses? Not usually. I agree with both the color/pattern mixing, and fabric matching comments, and think there is things to be learned there. That being said, if he's willing to listen to the comments and take what he wants from them, then they are worthwhile. Additionally, if he is happy with what he wears, and posts just for his pleasure, then good for him. He doesn't have to wear SF approved clothing, and doesn't have to wear what anyone else tells him to if he doesn't want to. Have fun with it, clothes are meant to be worn, and having a personal style means something.

It seems every few weeks there's a flare up because in WAYW because people get offended by an insulting comment or negative comment. My opinion on this is to sit back, relax, and get over it. When we wake up tomorrow morning, the interwebz will still be here.

MK
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STFU mannequin man.






- B
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Very, very few men do it well. Off the top of my head, I can think of two names here that do this sort of thing well: olddog/oldtrix and Phat Guido. You're a close third. Actually, no one is in olddog's league when it comes to this...he skates extremely close to what might be considered a highly contrived approach to color. For me, he does not skate over that line usually, but I can understand those who think he does.

There is also an Anglo-American cultural bias in the sense that artful color coordination has been the preserve of (1) women and (2) rather dandified guys. For men, the tradition is greater sobriety and when not sober, discordancy, the latter from one or two wild elements (whether that's a loud shirt for a London boy, GTH Madras for a Yankee, echoed more mutely for the SF age with the old saw about non-matching pocket squares.)

What has really happened in WAYRN is not lines drawn between those who love color and those who hate it, but between self-expressionists and those who assume that their tailored clothiing is rooted in something more than just plummage.

All this is neither here nor there because I think that you have elevated Diavolo's critique in this case and his pattern of critique to what it is not. He is a fairly reliable barometer. If he says that you dressed today like crap, you probably did. It's not more complicated than that.

I mean, do you think spoozy dresses well? I'll tell you what I think: fit after fit looks absolutely terrible (sorry spooz.)


- B

I think this is where i may be loosing you guys.

  • Do i think Spoozy's colors coordinates well - NO. And i have criticized him before ... several times actually.
  • Do i think Diavolo should be the one criticizing Spoozy ... or better said ... Do i think Diavolo's criticism will cause Spoozy to change - NO, because he doesnt buy what Diavolo is selling due to a lack of appreciation of Diavolo's sense of style.

Interestingly we both agreed on PG and o/o having great sense of color and pattern. I was typing my response same time as you were and we agreed on that. So i think there is some truth to the matter.

I wish both will comment more. Obviously its a personal choice based on their schedules, reasons for posting etc, but this thread stands to gain so much from their commentary, cos i agree, they are in a league of their own when it comes to color and pattern matching.

Heck - i would even muddy the waters more. Will i take fit advice from o/o - absolutely not, because he has his personal sense of fit that i don't believe in. Will i take fit advice from you or MaoMao (and some others) - absolutely yes, because based on evidence, i believe you have a sense of fit more in line with my expectations of what "right fit" is.

Bottom line - constructive feedback coming from folks with a proven track record works. If it doesnt work, you just break bait and allow the individual to wallow in their misery.
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Thanks to all who commented yesterday. I've been learning a lot from this thread (bukkake and the like aside, lol). Today's sober court look: I tried many different angles and lighting and can't, by any means been able to get the shirt's detail which is a light blue with faint pinkish stripes. BTW, that is a half windsor knot. The 4IH looked terrible, too skinny and elongated.
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Spoozy is teh man in the same sense as how Mark Turner is teh man.

Splash out, Spooz.
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There is a SF.ru site???? really

Yes, I am on there al the time, along with a few other guys that post here.

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I think I've said this before but Diavolo's feedback may have been the single best thing I've gotten out of this forum.

More people need to step back and think about what he's saying instead of having a knee-jerk defensive reaction.

For me, the best example, hands down, of someone who stepped his game up almost exclusively based on the criticism he received here is NYRanger. His early posts were brutally criticized. Everything from his gear to his "lifestyle" shots. he took it all in stride, kept changing things based on the criticism's kept coming back and posting and now I think he has a great look down, which is "forum approved" but not necessarily group think. Same thing with SkinnyGoomba, a lot of people blasted a lot of his early fits but he kep at it, kept asking and listening and although he rarely posts, he dressed like he belongs in a RL window (in a good way).
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Thanks to all who commented yesterday. I've been learning a lot from this thread (bukkake and the like aside, lol).

Today's sober court look:



I tried many different angles and lighting and can't, by any means been able to get the shirt's detail which is a light blue with faint pinkish stripes.

BTW, that is a half windsor knot. The 4IH looked terrible, too skinny and elongated.

I would say that this is the best look you have posted, in terms of color (the tie is a nice splash of color with the suit) and fit. You have something a bit weird in your waist area, do you have small waist/hips and a large chest (no homo, of course)? I think you would benefit from a bit less waist suppression. Nice shoes
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^^^ Dig the shoes...
Thanks!
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I think the pants & jacket are too close together in color. If either were patterned, tho, it'd be dope. Nice look! I do dig the wheels, but personally I think they're a bit dressy for a night out. Something like the boots on this page would be perfect, especially the Aldens
Accepted.
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Awesome! Liking the color palette! May I ask, who made the trousers?
Thank you! These are Zara jeans.
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Yes!!
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This is awesome. Depending on where you're located I may just pull out my yellow pants for fall wear.
It's easier for me. It was 85 yesterday in L.A.
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Diggin' the shoes
+1
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No patterns. Saving for Friday.
Nice coat!!!
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My first MC WAYWT Pics.(Yesterday) Shirt-MT Sweater- H&M Shoes- AE Leeds Shell Pants-UCOB Socks-Venanzi Watch- Vintage USSR Mechanical Tie- Zara
H&M sweaters Not a big fan of open collar with a tie, but overall the look is good, albeit a little on the conservative side.
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Originally Posted by poissa View Post
very sharp. Personally, I wouldn't wear that shirt but it works!
Thanks! That shit works well for me because of my hair color.
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Originally Posted by Grayland View Post
Very cool look and I love the shirt.
Thank you!
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I think this would look much better if your pants were shorter. They bunch up a lot making your legs appear shorter. Given your physique, it's not a good thing.
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I'm a big fan of yours, Spoo, but this fit seems way too heavy at the bottom and light at the top. You either needed a darker tie or lighter socks, at least.
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[center] Getting my Prince On ... with F U pocket square n all ... lol
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Al Fresco Fall Thursday (80°F in the Hub of the Universe and gorgeously semi-tropical): MBT™ (Mystery Bespoke Tailor™) 3 hard roll 2 jacket in Minnis 10oz fresco, two patch Dege & Skinner (Robert Whittaker) bespoke shirt in Acorn Grange, barrel cuffs Brioni cashmere tie Simonnot-Godard (for A Suitable Wardrobe) cotton hanky RL Polo (by Corneliani) flannel pants Hermès alligator strap with Tiffany sterling slide buckle Doré-Doré socks Vass derbies in midnight calf, New Peter last Tiffany Etoile band in platinum Seiko Spirit on grosgrain band Louis Vuitton (by Marc Jacobs) sunglasses - B
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It's easier for me. It was 85 yesterday in L.A.

72 today in NY and I almost did it.
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