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post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to consult SF's knowledge base:

Stephen at Leffot highly recommended Saphir Renovateur cream as a leather cleaner/nourisher/moisturizer/enhancer.

I've used it on my new EGs, and on some olders shoes (ferries/C&J), it does seem to work quite well, in that it makes the leather look nice, and it actually polishes up quite well too.

He recommended polishing after using it with a beeswax based polish. Do you think this is necessary? (Does the moisturizer/cleaner need to be sealed in)

Also, the one downside I've identified is that it's smell is quite strong. It says it contains mink oil, and I recall reading somewhere that someone had a bad experience with it, but I can't remember the specifics, nor do I know whether it is a very prominent ingredient in Saphir.

How often do you doodz use something like this versus just regular polish/creme?

Spanks
post #2 of 37
Conditioner, then cream, then wax = good Don't do this every time though. Most polishing sessions, I simply add another coat of wax.
post #3 of 37
I have a ton of Saphir products. And I love to keep my shoes nice. But to be completely honest, I cannot tell the slightest bit of difference between what Renovateur and my Allen Edmonds conditioning creme does for my shoes. They seem to accomplish the same task, one does it for a great deal cheaper and is easier to find. YMMV.

I have Crema Nubiana as well, wanting to try that out and see what it does. Again, honestly, can't tell or see any noticeable difference before or after using either of these products.

That being said, their waxes are the finest, and by far, the best looking waxes I have ever used on my shoes, and I will continue to use them.
post #4 of 37
Thread Starter 
Thanks. I have a C&J dark brown wax, but I think I might get a redder Saphir wax for my EG dark oak antiques.
post #5 of 37
I skip the conditioner products and just use 100% unscented petroleum jelly generic store brand. it costs a few bucks for a container, and lasts forever. Keeps the leather nice and supple, i apply a little, then rub it in/rub off any extra.

don't see any ill effects on my shoes
post #6 of 37
I presume your shoes are also from generic store brand.
post #7 of 37
cheapest places to buy wax in Paris?
post #8 of 37
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Originally Posted by archetypal_yuppie View Post
Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to consult SF's knowledge base:

Stephen at Leffot highly recommended Saphir Renovateur cream as a leather cleaner/nourisher/moisturizer/enhancer.

I've used it on my new EGs, and on some olders shoes (ferries/C&J), it does seem to work quite well, in that it makes the leather look nice, and it actually polishes up quite well too.

He recommended polishing after using it with a beeswax based polish. Do you think this is necessary? (Does the moisturizer/cleaner need to be sealed in)

Also, the one downside I've identified is that it's smell is quite strong. It says it contains mink oil, and I recall reading somewhere that someone had a bad experience with it, but I can't remember the specifics, nor do I know whether it is a very prominent ingredient in Saphir.

How often do you doodz use something like this versus just regular polish/creme?

Spanks

I basically do the reno, let it dry buff quckly with a cloth, then wax and brush. This works wonders. Probably in between these sessions I just apply a little reno and brush. I only pull out the wax every now and again. The reno does a good job of removing old polish, and actually keeping the wax supple and not hardening and such.

It does contain mink oil, but in very very small amounts, which isn't bad. The majority of the ingredients in it are beeswax, shea butter, ox-foot oil, lanolin, carnauba, and other vegetable oils. Using 100% mink oil, while keeping leather supple as all hell it takes off the finish that is there and pretty much prevents a shine from being achieved. The natural oils in reno act as a sublte solvent, and the beeswax that is melted down with lanolin and carnauba produce a subtle shine.
post #9 of 37
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Originally Posted by ferguscan View Post
Conditioner, then cream, then wax = good

Don't do this every time though. Most polishing sessions, I simply add another coat of wax.

Ditto.
post #10 of 37
Reno is a great product but as already mentioned difficult to get hold of especially here in the UK!
post #11 of 37
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Originally Posted by Northampton Novice View Post
Reno is a great product but as already mentioned difficult to get hold of especially here in the UK!

This is because member patrickBOOTH has hoarded the European supply of Renovateur for his Friday night "slop" parties.
post #12 of 37
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post
This is because member patrickBOOTH has hoarded the European supply of Renovateur for his Friday night "slop" parties.

How do I get an invite!
post #13 of 37
will Spaghetti be served?
post #14 of 37
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post
I basically do the reno, let it dry buff quckly with a cloth, then wax and brush. This works wonders. Probably in between these sessions I just apply a little reno and brush. I only pull out the wax every now and again. The reno does a good job of removing old polish, and actually keeping the wax supple and not hardening and such.

It does contain mink oil, but in very very small amounts, which isn't bad. The majority of the ingredients in it are beeswax, shea butter, ox-foot oil, lanolin, carnauba, and other vegetable oils. Using 100% mink oil, while keeping leather supple as all hell it takes off the finish that is there and pretty much prevents a shine from being achieved. The natural oils in reno act as a sublte solvent, and the beeswax that is melted down with lanolin and carnauba produce a subtle shine.

Uhm, you just replied to a one-year-old question.
post #15 of 37
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Originally Posted by onix View Post
Uhm, you just replied to a one-year-old question.

This shows you have better than average observational powers & the chances are Reno is even rarer
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