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post #46 of 52
1/13/10 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post
Dude.. you are not even in a gray area... just fine, in my opinion.

Now... when I was in college, we used to play a LOT of beach volleyball. My friends would go into the sporting goods stores and pull the old "switcharoo" putting leather balls in the boxes for vinyl balls, and vice versa, then a different friend would go in the next day and buy a stack of $60 balls for $15 each. Now THAT was a little shady. I never participated in the theft, but I did play with the balls, so I guess I'll rot in hell anyway. Eventually, they caught on and started putting the UPC codes directly onto the balls.

This is the situation from which I strive to be disassociated.
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post #47 of 52
1/13/10 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by mccvi View Post
OP, I think, for you (not generalizing here), the answer to the question is contained in the fact that you even saw fit to pose it as a question at all.

"act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as an end and never merely as a means to an end." ~kant

The categorical imperative is littered with problems and is not worth using as a moral guide.

I admitted to a twinge of guilt, but a cold analysis of the details of the particular situation is best in deciding how to act in the future. I think you all have solidified my position that being a savvy shopper within the rules of the capitalist 'game' is the way to go.
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post #48 of 52
1/13/10 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
ChicagoRon, is that Cigar on your avatar?
No, It's Barbaro (RIP)
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post #49 of 52
1/13/10 at 1:37pm
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post
Dude.. you are not even in a gray area... just fine, in my opinion.

Now... when I was in college, we used to play a LOT of beach volleyball. My friends would go into the sporting goods stores and pull the old "switcharoo" putting leather balls in the boxes for vinyl balls, and vice versa, then a different friend would go in the next day and buy a stack of $60 balls for $15 each. Now THAT was a little shady. I never participated in the theft, but I did play with the balls, so I guess I'll rot in hell anyway. Eventually, they caught on and started putting the UPC codes directly onto the balls.

When I was in college I knew a few kids who would travel to the US on break and take Canadian travelers' cheques with them... the fact they're in CAD wasn't very well marked and American merchants would accept them as USD... at the exchange rates back then, this provided quite a discount on major purchases.

I also still have a friend who always puts those little sampler bottles on bottles of hard liquor he buys. Rarely do the clerks notice or care. Once in a while they do.

Not sure the point of my relaying these stories.
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post #50 of 52
1/13/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by unjung View Post
When I was in college I knew a few kids who would travel to the US on break and take Canadian travelers' cheques with them... the fact they're in CAD wasn't very well marked and American merchants would accept them as USD... at the exchange rates back then, this provided quite a discount on major purchases.

I also still have a friend who always puts those little sampler bottles on bottles of hard liquor he buys. Rarely do the clerks notice or care. Once in a while they do.

Not sure the point of my relaying these stories.

You know some cool people?
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post #51 of 52
1/13/10 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by IUtoSLU View Post
Wow. I'm a little surprised by the vote as well. I guess the slight twinge of guilt I felt is an overactive conscience?

Don't feel bad for taking advantage of someone else's screw up.
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post #52 of 52
1/13/10 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by IUtoSLU View Post
The categorical imperative is littered with problems and is not worth using as a moral guide.

I admitted to a twinge of guilt, but a cold analysis of the details of the particular situation is best in deciding how to act in the future. I think you all have solidified my position that being a savvy shopper within the rules of the capitalist 'game' is the way to go.

Understood, just throwing in my two cents.
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