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Possible Moral Issue

post #1 of 52
Thread Starter 
As many of you know, I am a lover of Rye whiskey. Let me be clearer - I am a fan of American Rye Whiskey. I currently have 6 different bottles stocked. My favorites are Rittenhouse 23 and Black Maple Hill 23. I have never tasted the Black Maple Hill 21, but I've been itching to buy a bottle.

Today I stopped by a local chain grocery store in a nicer part of town. I never knew how extensive their wine and spirits selection was. They had many interesting bottles of scotch and other whiskies. What caught my eye was the fact that they had Black Maple Hill 23 and 21. The 23 was priced around $150, but the 21 was priced at $42. I immediately knew that it had been either underpriced by accident or mislabeled. I put this bottle in my cart (their last bottle) and headed to the register.

I asked the checkout person how much it cost. He scanned it and nothing came up. He then went and spoke with some other person (a manager, maybe) and they went to the liquor aisle. He came back and told me the price was $42.

I bought it.

I don't really feel bad about it, because knowledge is power and all they had to do was perform a google search. On the other hand, I feel like a really good person would have explained the situation, just because they value the truth and noticed a clear error. There is no way it was some sort of special sale.

Thoughts?
post #2 of 52
I assume it was the 750ml size? Does it say where it was bottled?

I personally wouldn't worry about it... it's not like you switched price tags or anything. You ran it by management, and they gave you a price, so you are in the clear! Enjoy... with an entirely clear conscience.
post #3 of 52
You should have bought it, then informed the manager.
post #4 of 52
I think it comes down to whether you asking them for clarification satisfies your conscience.

The store manager has been delegated the power to have final say on the pricing of any single item in an instance like the one you were in. You didn't go to the cash and say "the price on the bottle says "X"; I demand you sell it to me at "X". You asked them for the price, they tried to scan it for a price (which didn't work), which means that the manager becomes the arbiter for pricing. He told you the price, and that's that. You didn't take advantage of them by buying 10 bottles. You bought what you had come for (a bottle of Black Maple 21) and that's that. If you go back tomorrow and buy a case of bottles, I would say that is far larger of a moral issue.

But I would say that you're in the gray area at worst.
post #5 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dentata View Post
You should have bought it, then informed the manager.

Kancho!
post #6 of 52
Thread Starter 
It is the normal 750 ml bottle, bottled in Bardstown, KY. To be clear, I did not go to the store with the intention of buying BMH 21. I happened to notice it was cheap. If it had been at full price, I would not have purchased it. Also, as I said, it was their last bottle, so it would have been impossible for me to buy any more bottles.
post #7 of 52
Well, even though it's most likely an aged Heaven Hill product, you still did very well and should proudly add it to your collection with no qualms whatsoever. When you do open it, be sure to raise a toast to the manager.
post #8 of 52
Just so I know what's going on, what's the bottle really worth?
post #9 of 52
They don't even know their merchandise. Fuck them.
post #10 of 52
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by holymadness View Post
Just so I know what's going on, what's the bottle really worth?

$120-160, or so.
post #11 of 52
here's my take - if it was mislabeled, you are ok. if the cashier mis-enters the price, I always point it out. mislabeling is a corporate issue, that the people right there can't fix, and probrably can't be blamed for, and frankly, somebody else will take advantage of it. if you said "hey, the value of this is much higher" to the manager, he probrably wouldn't have known how to fix it.
post #12 of 52
I'm not sure where the moral issue is... but here's a few thoughts: 1) This doesn't sound like some kind of mom & pop grocery store, since you said it was a local chain. If they've got a few locations, they're probably a pretty large corporation. I don't know which chain this is, but you should never feel guilty taking advantage of a large corporation, unless possibly you stole from them outright. 2) That said, it's not like you stole this. Not even close. They had a price marked on it, you paid it. It's the seller's responsibility to know what they've got. The usual retail price of this bottle is irrelevant, in my opinion. To the store, it was only worth $42, and that's what you gave them. 3) Are you positive it was not a sale, considering it was the last bottle? I agree with Dentata, you should have bought it and then asked the manager why it was so cheap. Once you pay them, and have a receipt, it's yours. 4) This is not much different than buying stock in a company which is significantly undervalued by the market. Each company has an intrinsic value -- essentially the company's future earnings discounted to the present. But due to market inefficiencies and asymmetrical information, stocks don't always trade at what they're worth. If you identify an undervalued company, buy its stock for $50 a share, and over the course of a year, it rises to $100 a share, should you feel guilty for having 'known' that it was worth more than it was trading for? Most people would say no. That said, you did more than you needed to to give them a chance to correct any 'error' that they may have made. You should enjoy your whiskey guilt-free.
post #13 of 52
I think what you did is fine. It's their job to make sure they are pricing their products appropriately, not yours. That said, I'd drink a toast to my good fortune, but would not go back and buy a case of the stuff. For some reason, the former just feels better than the latter.
post #14 of 52
They offered an item for sale at a given price, you accepted. No issue.
post #15 of 52
Only issue is that you didn't buy their entire stock and resell. That's what you should have done. America was built and entrepreneurship.
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