Originally Posted by waldo pepper
The original point was that US F is tougher than rugby because big guys hit little guys,by looking on the roster it PROVED that the difference between the biggest and smallest was not much different to rugby therefore disproving the theory. I don't even particularly like rugby I just get tired of Americans getting on their high horses about sports that nobody outside the US plays.
Actually that was never the point. The original point is that Football v.s. Rugby is an unfair comparison. I am tired of rugby players getting on their high horses and telling people that American Football players are less manly than Rugby players because they wear armor. The game is totally different, and the weight difference between the players makes much more of an impact than you think it does. You get hit alot harder in the NFL than you probably ever would playing rugby, and by bigger guys. You said that there were 2 players on your rugby team that were 280lbs? There are 19 players on the Seahawks roster that "officially" weigh more than that. Generally, players fudge and are actually playing heavier than they list, so there are potentially over 20 players on our roster that play at, near, or well above three hundred pounds. The Seahawks aren't that "big" of a team either. Our offensive and defense lines are often considered "undersized". The difference between the heaviest current NFL player at 393 lbs (the actual 2005 midseason playing weight of Toniu Fonoti who plays for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers) and Bill Cavubati (the heaviest rugby player) at 357lbs is pretty large when you are talking about them hitting anyone with their full body weight. 357lbs is probably just a handful of pounds above the average weight of an offensive lineman in the NFL. In 2003, there were 321 players in the league over 300lbs. There are undoubtedly more now, I just can't find the numbers to back it up, I'd be very suprised if its gone down though. Anyways, I just thought I'd clear that up, I wouldn't want you to besmirch the intentions of my original post. Oh, and I'm only a Manchester United fan until Ruud leaves, and then I'll be a fan of wherever he ends up.