Originally Posted by Violinist
O get over yourself. I'm sick of haughty WIS geeks ripping on Cartier... yea we all realize most of them use ETA movements (although the new Pacha 42mm and Santos 100 Chrono use great movements), but in terms of finishing, Cartier is one of the greatest jewelry houses in the world and the finishing of their watches is of very high quality. Will it equal a Patek? Of course not. What also makes me laugh are two guys I know, whose watch collections (I will bet anything) vastly outstrips whatever you have... among their many nauseatingly expensive watches are some Cartiers (that they bought for their wife), and a few from the PC, and they all comment on the high level of finishing. My dad for example has a Breguet and a Patek, and I'd say my mom's Cartier is definately a venerable timepiece from an aesthetic point of view.
Wow. Just wow. Dude, you really have no clue what you are talking about. First off your arguments are all over the place. You started with:
Originally Posted by Violinist
At first, I thought Cartier was the best in the world, and although their design and finish is right up there, I now look at other brands because of the movement and other factors.
Which makes no sense because finishing is only regarding how well ‘finished’ the case and movement is, nothing else. Cartier is hardly well finished. If you look at the back of a Pasha Chronograph, which uses the fantastic F. Piguet 1185 chronograph movement, you will notice that the movement is stamped with the Cartier-motif again and again. Instead of being finished with CÃ´tes de GenÃ¨ve or some other form of finer finishing, they simply choose to machine stamp, hardly worth of ‘finish is right up there’
. Also, none of the plates or bridges underneath are polished or finished as well as they could be. And yes, while the watch is quite well finished when it comes to the exterior case, it is not ‘up there’ with PP, AP, JLC, just to name a few. You somehow moved into movements, which is a completely different subject, for the movement used in a watch is not a detrimental part of the finishing of the case or movement. There are watches from companies like IWC that take basic ETA / Valjoux movements and finish them off to higher-than-Patek standards (well, the grand complication models, anyways) also, you should see what UN (and I don’t like them, nothing to do with the watches, it’s a few problems I had with their office here in Boca) can do with basic ETA movements. Also, you do realize that from a quality point of view (and apparently you think that quality equals design) for the same price there are better watches out there than Cartier, right? Oh, and since you have no idea regarding my watch collection or my knowledge regarding horology, and you don’t really seem to have any, how can you possibly judge? I rather be a ‘geek’ as you call it and know what I’m talking about than be an ignoramus, full of hot air that hasn’t got a clue. This is why I basically stopped posting on watch forums, because every day some person would come and post criticize regarding things they did not understand. Jon. BTW: my personal style is quite good, thank you.