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post #1636 of 1915
Reading this epic piece of styleforum history is a joy. Dayton clearly did not estimate production volume or capacity wisely and suffered as a result. Their CEO had a background in promotion and marketing, which explains his 'sales' idea, but clearly had little experience in operations and logistics. Anyone who has done any work there would know that a firm working out of a tiny operating budget like Dayton's would not be able to handle the huge impact from a sudden surge in demand to cash flow (payments for boots not yet made and sold are not revenue), production capacity (handmade boots can not be ramped up in volume without suffering QC issues as has been seen in this thread) and raw materials acquisition (cash flow sink to meet demand and your suppliers themselves often cannot renegotiate contracts or even meet your demand if they're a boutique too).

TL/DR: As a startup/small firm/boutique always make sure that cash flow can meet stress tests. Otherwise you fail to pay salaries and make debt payments, and when that happens we all know the shitstorm that follows (hello MF Global).
post #1637 of 1915
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Originally Posted by jaja View Post

you wanna meet and talk in person?................amateurs eh?

make a pair of boots out of your geek ass.

 

alot of people  at that company had to deal with your little girl like diva shit!

if you ever saw me................and knew who i was, you would run for your fucking life.

 

choose your words next time geek!

 

last time i ever post on here.................get a life you fucks!



Only way we are meeting in person is if you want to fix my shitty dayton anniversary sale specials.

Have you actually seen some of the garbage that's come out of the Dayton factory? Plenty of examples in this thread.
post #1638 of 1915
From what I understand, they weren't in a great position even before the anniversary sale ever happened. The sale and the opening of the Granville store broke the camel's back.

binauralbeats: Have you even read the last few pages? You're blaming the employees when really it's Stephen and his shitty management.
post #1639 of 1915
One of the best threads on SF

Truly hilarious

Needs more angst
post #1640 of 1915
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Originally Posted by jaja View Post



you wanna meet and talk in person?................amateurs eh?
make a pair of boots out of your geek ass.

alot of people  at that company had to deal with your little girl like diva shit!
if you ever saw me................and knew who i was, you would run for your fucking life.

choose your words next time geek!

last time i ever post on here.................get a life you fucks!

facepalm.gif Good riddance.
post #1641 of 1915
Trans-continent Facepalm from Northern Europe icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

I just don't like Stephen blaming the workers in his email. He is the CEO of the company who's in charge therefore holds all responsibility, even if the workers have their faults.
One reason I like family owned businesses/ companies where the owner is deeply connected to the company
post #1642 of 1915

Well, at least we know there's some sympathy for you guys since Jet hasn't come in here to say "I told you so" yet.

 

Even as late as last year, Dayton seemed to still be doing alright.  I bought my service boots first week of September 2010, got them first week of October.  Kayla kept in constant contact with me through email the entire way, updating the progression of my boots and even sending me pictures throughout the production stages. 

 

I think the sale really did a number on them.  They are a niche company making boots mainly for the logging industry, police and motorcyclists (and these boots are supposed to last the wearer 10 years).  I'm guessing that their boot makers are used to making 1 new pair of boots a week.  When that sale hit and they had to up their production to say, 2 or 3 boots a week, that's what caused all the quality control issues (and assuming they are unionized, there's no way that they were going to work 3 times as much as usual).  The best part of the service boots are the elongated slim toe profile.  Some of the boots posted look stubby and bulbous and dont' even look like they were made on the right last.

post #1643 of 1915
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Originally Posted by jaja View Post



you wanna meet and talk in person?................amateurs eh?
make a pair of boots out of your geek ass.

alot of people  at that company had to deal with your little girl like diva shit!
if you ever saw me................and knew who i was, you would run for your fucking life.

choose your words next time geek!

last time i ever post on here.................get a life you fucks!

And with one ragequit, he was gone.
post #1644 of 1915
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Originally Posted by swaggerjack View Post

I'm guessing that their boot makers are used to making 1 new pair of boots a week. 

Uhhh... yeah.
post #1645 of 1915
ragequit lol
post #1646 of 1915
>=D
Edited by impolyt_one - 12/21/11 at 6:36pm
post #1647 of 1915

I don't know anything about production times.  I was just using the numbers as an example to show that an increase in amount of boots made per week by each bootmaker might explain all the quality control issues. 

post #1648 of 1915
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Originally Posted by Froosh View Post

binauralbeats: Have you even read the last few pages? You're blaming the employees when really it's Stephen and his shitty management.

Yes I realize Stephen is responsible for the low quality output. I guess it's just too bad the boot makers didn't collectively hold to some quality standards at a pace they're comfortable with instead of ramping up output to where quality would suffer.
post #1649 of 1915
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Originally Posted by swaggerjack View Post

I don't know anything about production times.  I was just using the numbers as an example to show that an increase in amount of boots made per week by each bootmaker might explain all the quality control issues. 


You said it yourself. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
post #1650 of 1915
Heh, my boots shipped today (Charcoal Nubuck). I ordered them on 4/14 and originally bought them to use as motorcycle boots for shorter rides but have since acquired a different pair of boots for that purpose. Will most likely put them up on B/S (11EE).
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