Originally Posted by odoreater
I'm just guessing that he's referring to people who have not gone bespoke before. That's just the reason though why I wouldn't call mail ordering from foreign makers "bespoke." If you go to an actual bespoke tailor that person is going to make recommendations for you and guide you through the process (if they are worth their salt). If you decide that you want something stupid or that will look horrible on you they well make you aware of that fact and then allow you to make your decision (though, the final decision should always belong to the cusomter). With the mail order guys, you just order and they give you what you order without being able to see you and make any recommendations. There's a million things out there that you might not even think of if you don't have experience getting bespoke suits made when ordering through the mail, and there a lot of small measurements that can't be accurately conveyed over the mail. Also, ordering through the mail does not allow the tailor to make adjustments based on fittings before the final product is delivered.
Nevertheless, for some people paying a few hundred from Baron or whoever is the best option, but don't expect it to be as good as a bespoke or MTM suit, or even as good as a decent RTW suit.
I disagree a little. You speak like you are an authority on internet tailors. Have you in fact purchased a suit from any of the internet tailors? This thread has proven that you can get a decent suit, made to your specifications, that fits significantly better than a RTW suit. Ask Jovan, or look at the photos he posted. Granted, it has some pitfalls. You make a mistake in your measurements, and you're going to receive an ill-fitting suit. And yes, if you can go bespoke, go bespoke. But most can't.
Now I am not arguing the virtue of a bespoke fitting. Obviously there is no replacement to this, but it seems to me, if you can measure well, and know what you want, you can order a pretty decent suit for about the same you would spend on a RTW suit. To me, this seems like a pretty good option for those who either cannot afford a bespoke suit, or simply do not have the means to get to someone who tailors bespoke suits. Bespoke tailors are a rarity these days, especially in the US.
Also, I've sent several test emails to Baron Boutique, including pictures. His recommendations seem on par with advice I have received from tailors and various fora (people whose opinions I trust wholeheartedly) So while you do not have the face-to-face interaction, being able to communicate effectively what you want and being able to provide pictures of yourself for recommendation seems to be a happy medium between full bespoke and RTW.