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post #46 of 173
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Originally Posted by m@T
train stations in Paris smell like urine
The metro is one thing but the escalators down to the suburban and high-speed local rail, the RER, smell like waterfalls of urine. However, then I remembered the NY Subway and that PAris does not have a urine monopoly. Best for marc37, at least.
post #47 of 173
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Originally Posted by RJman
Best for marc37, at least.
he carries a leather soled hipflask in thirsty anticipation
post #48 of 173
Any public restromm in any major city is apt to smell like urine.

When I was in Shanghai's largest hospital, using the restroom, the singular stall floor was covered in urine, bits of fecal matter, mouth-foam from someone's epileptic fit, vomit residue, and pieces of hair.
post #49 of 173
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Originally Posted by m@T
he carries a leather soled hipflask in thirsty anticipation

Welted leather, of course!

Jon.
post #50 of 173
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
Europeans-unlike Americans-do not have a daily shower habit, which is why bidets are a customary feature in homes and hotels. Really, I think Americans are the only ones who place a distinct emphasis on daily showers or even two a day.
Not true. Canadians shower once a day, as do Argentineans. Jon.
post #51 of 173
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Originally Posted by RJman
Apparently in France if you step in a burning car it's even better luck.

HAHAHAHA, great comeback.

Jon.
post #52 of 173
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
Not true. Canadians shower once a day, as do Argentineans. Jon.
Well, I suppose North Americans in general and likely South Americans due to the climate. However, even in the European society circles, it seems many women eschew things that Americans would consider essential.
post #53 of 173
I think the question how often people shower is a generational thing. I cannot remember a single day in the last 10 years when I did not take a shower. My Ukranian girl-friend normally showers twice a day. My theory ist that once the facilities become available is does not take long until it becomes part of the culture to use it daily. By not long I mean a generation or so. Clearly in America showers became commonplace earlier than in Europe. An interesting questions to the Americans would be: When did people start to take a shower daily? Many of you seem to notice that European cities are more dirty than American cities - that depends: come to my town and see..... American tourists in Europe: Here in Zurich they are normally dressed nicer than the Germans (not hard to do IMO) and are not as annoing as well. However, sometimes I like to spend some time in Athens in the very nice Grande Bretagne hotel. It is the kind of hotel where proper dress is requested and I find that nice from time to time. One day a noisy hord of Americans invaded - all in t-shirts (with teddy bears etc. printed on) and shorts, sneakers. Aparently they were supposed to board a cruise ship the next day. I found that very disturbing, I sat down in the lobby, properly dressed, and stared at them.
post #54 of 173
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Originally Posted by muelleran
May of you seem to notice that European cities are more dirty than American cities - that depends: come to my town and see.....
Yes, but that would require going to Zurich.
post #55 of 173
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Originally Posted by RJman
Yes, but that would require going to Zurich.

What could possibly be wrong with that?

http://www.carto.net/cgi-sykora/phot...01_zuerich.jpg
post #56 of 173
I'd like to add Freiburg and Munich to that list, come to think of it, put Hamburg and Berlin on it too. At least around here public restrooms (i.e. in train stations) are pretty clean as there's always a lady sitting there cleaning it every 15 mins or so (who wants a tip...). I'm groced out about bathrooms easily (and rightly so, just yesterday I was in Strasbourg and the toilet was..ahhh). I know a single person who doesn't shower daily but he has hippie hair, used to live in Brasil and is the son of a sociology prof, so he doesn't really count. Aside from that taking a shower in the morning is routine for everyone- france might be different but then they spend their disposable income on food and clothing rather than cars and houses (thus explaining why they might not shower every day- they don't have a nice bathroom with Grohe appliances...). You don't really need airconditioning when you don't have east-coast-style humidity, plus a decent house stays relatively cool inside (just looked at a passive-enery house that doesn't even require heating in the winter and stays nice and cool in the summer). At least here in Germany I never had much of a problem with pick-pockets, that 's more a problem in southern europe (in case you didn't notice- europe's pretty diverse). Also, what do you expect in a touristy city? Asme thing in the US, small towns are void of thtat sort of criminality here too. I don't see how the prices are such a big issue- true some stuff's cheaper in the US and some here, but then again your quality of living in the sense of culture is better over here... about evens out to me. If we make this a 'What pisses me in France'-thread (as most of the stuff applies to the Frogs) I'd like to add the clock timers in bathrooms (I want to shower or take a dump as long as I damn well please to- light went out just yesterday).
post #57 of 173
a lot of these complaints come from only seeing the touristy side of europe, and more accuratly, seeing a part of europe that you might not see at home. like a few people mentioned, I think public bathrooms in europe are cleaner than those in the states, usually. but I also know where to go in europe, and in america I would only go if I needed to in an emergency.


about the whole personal hygine thing, I think that that is a generational thing. the level of american personal hygine was set maybe 80 years ago, and is now becoming common in europe with people of the past boomer generation.
post #58 of 173
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Originally Posted by LabelKing

When I was in Shanghai's largest hospital, using the restroom, the singular stall floor was covered in urine, bits of fecal matter, mouth-foam from someone's epileptic fit, vomit residue, and pieces of hair.

Must have been some kind of party!
post #59 of 173
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Originally Posted by stach
Must have been some kind of party!
Fortunately I had rubber oversoles.
post #60 of 173
Anti-Americanism.
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