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post #61 of 69
12/30/09 at 1:34am
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It is possible to make some money as a Lawyer.

This guy who I was acquainted with did quite well. Sadly he died way too soon.

As to my Ukrainian friend. She was a Lawyer in the Ukraine and that doesn't mean anything here. But she's basically just looking for some decent employment.

The point of the thread is that it's scary that someone like her, with her experience and work ethic can't find anything at all. That is an eye opener.
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post #62 of 69
12/30/09 at 2:09am
Of the lawyers I know ...
several tell me there is nothing like the practice of law.
Most tell me that the practice of law isn't what it used to be ...
to which I say ... very little is ... until you make it what you want it to be.
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post #63 of 69
12/30/09 at 2:21am
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
What does "importing lawyers" have to do with a U.S. citizen who has lived here for 7 years?

What kind of work did she expect to find when she decided to move here?
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post #64 of 69
12/30/09 at 2:27am
The last thing the world needs right now is more lawyers.
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post #65 of 69
12/30/09 at 2:34am
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The last thing the world needs right now is more lawyers.

I don't know if it's the LAST thing, but it's certainly not in the top ten.
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post #66 of 69
12/30/09 at 2:44am
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The last thing the world needs right now is more lawyers.

Well...after what the bankers got us into, somebody has to fix this mess.
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post #67 of 69
12/30/09 at 3:07am
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That's not true. I regularly review the job openings from my Alma mater and no beginning prosecutor's job in Alaska pays anywhere near that. The problem with working outside of the cities is that the pay is shit. It's not a requirement that I live near a cappuccino stand, but if I want to make enough money to pay off those ridiculous student loans I stupidly indebted myself to I have to earn more than thirty-three a year.

EDIT - And for a job that is supposedly difficult to keep people on the job - there is exactly ONE listing for an attorney in all of Alaska on Monster.com right now. http://jobsearch.monster.com/Search....s=miles&re=130
Was your alma mater Alaska? If so feel free to correct me, but a young prosecutor I know who worked in the North Slope region told me that was indeed the situation. They have to charter flights just to go to all the little hearings. I'm quite sure such a job wouldn't be posted on monster.com, if anywhere Anyway, the larger point is that lawyers cycle through rural areas very frequently- we just had a prosecutor who was making 75K recently leave, and he had only been here a year. With regards to the pay issue you mention, all the private attorneys I know here, and yes there is a shortage of them, make around 100k, certainly not NYC type pay but good enough from my perspective. That being said, this is a sucky place to live, don't get me wrong.
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post #68 of 69
12/30/09 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post
What kind of work did she expect to find when she decided to move here?

You'd have to ask her.

I know she primarily moved here for "the opportunity for a better life".

She's a smart woman and knew she would have to pass a US bar exam if she were to ever be a lawyer here. She's here 7 years now and hasn't done it.

As had been said the fact that she was a Lawyer in the Ukraine would be of no help here when she was an arriving immigrant.

I think she got the para-legal certification because it was related to her previous experience and was much easier to get than a JD. Whether she ever becomes a US Lawyer ( or even stays in the US ) is certainly no certainty.

I've always thought of the US as a nation of immigrants like my grandparents were. It would seem immigrants like her are what we would hope for as a nation. If people like her come here and can't make it and return home then that is a huge change from previous generations and I'm not sure it's a good thing.
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post #69 of 69
12/30/09 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Svenn View Post
Was your alma mater Alaska? If so feel free to correct me, but a young prosecutor I know who worked in the North Slope region told me that was indeed the situation. They have to charter flights just to go to all the little hearings. I'm quite sure such a job wouldn't be posted on monster.com, if anywhere Anyway, the larger point is that lawyers cycle through rural areas very frequently- we just had a prosecutor who was making 75K recently leave, and he had only been here a year. With regards to the pay issue you mention, all the private attorneys I know here, and yes there is a shortage of them, make around 100k, certainly not NYC type pay but good enough from my perspective. That being said, this is a sucky place to live, don't get me wrong.
Wait, so do you live in Alaska? If not, where (because I live in a rural area and new lawyers around here make way less than that, so that obviously piques my interest.....)
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