Further to the replies to my posting:
Well, I will never become a senior member, that's for sure. I am much too old for these things and I don't have the time. I would certainly not have had the time when I was younger. One was not supposed to be so preoccupied with these matters. I was not a Beau Brummel or an Oscar Wilde.
But I suppose I have a certain 'expertise' nevertheless.
Gentlemen as promised, I have read most of what you have written before. Very interesting. But as you must admit it all looks a bit ingÃ©nue from my point of view. I will explain this later.
But first: I did have some work done by Narin a year or two ago, not so good, not very bad, mistakes galore. Noticed that he did not advise other customer about ill fitting but it was a tourist so he let him go.
This year I may stopover in Bangkok again and even though I do not need anything I thought it would be interesting to look up where I had spent some money before.
I was utterly surprised to find Narin quoted as an upper end tailor and thought it best to balance the information. More so when I found that most of the information was simply taken from earlier postings and not always reliable.
Delving into my memory I see Narin as a very simple one man shop with one or two average cutters and maybe 2 or 3 seamstresses. That's all. At the time I did not have any idea that he spoke French. It might have helped in understanding. He was not quick on the uptake, if that is what you name it.
I did not see 'son diplÃ´me d'honneur' proudly displayed, but it may have been hidden behind the old piles of cloth. Taking measurements is not his 'forte'.
Many others have noticed this also and that he has no difficulty in repairing his faults is only just.
Some posters are eager to react when there is a not so favourable posting on Narin. If anything is suspicious it is exactly this.
I am not saying that you get paid for your writings but it is clear that you have spent lots and lots of time with the man and he has spent lots of time with you. If the results are that you have ordered one suit from him I can understand why he has to charge so much for average work.
As for the result of the one suit: we may assume that M. Narin is also reading this and that he is - in this case - not outsourcing. That a cutter has taken the measurements and that you can depend on his judgement. For the happy owner: well, at last you got a bespoke suit, or more or less so and by now there is no other way than to look to Leon Festinger.
I suppose that if you name yourself 'suited and booted' this is something that stands out among the people you are acquainted with. But maybe some humor is lost on me. I think that the majority of contributors to this site are Americans. They may use expressions not known to me. Sorry.
I looked at some other entries (almost 100% USA) on 'sweetbreads'. After numerous postings it turns out that some like them, some not and where they could eat them and at the very end there were even some questions what they were. I understand that it is not something that one can buy at the butchershop on the corner of Main street, so I cannot blame them. But, naturellement, one cannot expect profound knowledge from them.
It is maybe comparable with tailoring. You can read a lot about suit making and ask myriads of questions like Mr Svenn has done. But essentially both Mr Svenn and Mr S&B do not have a lot of experience in this field. They will have to have many suits made from many tailors before they should start advising others or even suggest things.
Of course,about 'expertise' I know it is a bit unfair. I am from another age and I was born into a family where it was normal practice to have suits made. I have never seen my grandfather, nor my father nor my 4 uncles without a bespoken suit. Not even on the beach. My father had light summer suits but often had his darker suits - and hats - also on the beach.
I guess that before my 4th year my mother made my clothes. After that our 'linen' tailor made my suits and as I was by then old enough I got sous-pieds and guÃªtres - we just called the whole thing sous-pieds. Nowadays most people will not even know the words.
Around 15 years old my father's tailor started making suits and coats for me. I think he often came to the house and I suppose he still did so for my father later on but as soon as I became a student I went to see the tailor. This went on till I was about 25. By that time our tailor had retired. I went abroad and for another 30 years I had my suits made in the old fashioned way. Nearly always 3-piece suits. Tuxedo's, evening dress, great coats, 'demi-saisons', etc.
Abroad I often got the adresses from my embassy. That did not mean that embassy's 'post reports' can always be trusted. But they are a starting point and having studied Asian languages it was easy to get information from local colleagues. I did not feel obliged to further that info.
I have no idea how many tailors I have had. I still have some old tailors that still make suits the old fashioned way. They are old and will stop working soon. Well, I don't really need any more suits or other clothes. Some of my good old tailors found an easier way to make jackets. I cannot blame them. Most of their customers can't see of feel the difference.
Where did all the suits go? I suppose that like elephants they all get together somewhere to fade away. As I have some dwellings in various continents some suits that I like less, go to a place where I visit less often. Sometimes they no longer fit anyhow. Sometimes I did not like them from the beginning and they have been worn only once or twice. Not the tailors fault. My mistake: cloth too heavy, did not like the colour or pattern after all. Servants happy.
After about 50 years experience I think I have a good idea what a tailor is like.