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The big IMAX rip off.

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Last night while I was waiting for the movie to start at Cinerama (Which was neither 3D, nor IMAX, (but is one of the largest screens in Seattle regardless) I overheard some people talking about how they got ripped off at a local IMAX theater when they went to see Avatar opening day. Evidently IMAX is licensing it's brand name out to AMC and REGAL who do not have traditional IMAX screens. The theater screens are 30'x60' on average which is a far cry from the actual IMAX theater in town which is 60x80. They are charging $5 more to see movies in this crappy, digitally projected, small screen IMAX bullshit. Don't be fooled. It is not really Imax.
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noted
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http://www.lfexaminer.com/20081016.htm
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In September 2008, Richard Gelfond, co-CEO of Imax Corporation, told members of the Giant Screen Cinema Association that “we don’t think of [IMAX] as the giant screen.” Rather, he said, “it is the best immersive experience on the planet.” The company takes this position because it has chosen not to differentiate its new digital projection system in any way from the 15/70 film systems it has been installing in giant-screen theaters since 1970. This despite the fact that, according to Imax VP Larry O’Reilly, its two major digital partners, AMC Entertainment and Regal Entertainment Group, both originally wanted to brand the new screens as “IMAX Digital.” And based on the reaction Gelfond’s announcement received in New York (and on many conversations I’ve had since) many, if not most, institutional IMAX operators would prefer this as well. In short, virtually all of Imax’s customers and partners would like to see a distinct new identity for the digital system. But Gelfond flatly rejected this possibility, offering an absurdly flawed analogy with BMW automobiles. He said that the German carmaker offers the 7-series line of larger, more powerful, luxury models as well as the smaller, entry-level 3-series cars. “People don’t say ‘The 3 isn’t a real BMW because it’s smaller.’” Of course, this ignores the fact that the model numbers, to say nothing of the prices, clearly distinguish BMW’s different product lines in consumers’ minds, while maintaining the unity of the brand. No car buyer believes he has bought a $125,000 760Li only to receive a $30,000 328i.
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Let me make one thing clear: I am not opposed to digital projection in principle, or to the IMAX digital system in particular. I think the change to digital projection in the giant-screen world is inevitable. And I fully admit that the IMAX digital system is superior, in certain respects, to some other digital systems. But I object when anyone claims that two patently different things are the same. Where I come from that's known as “lying.” And call me naïve, but I don’t believe that any company whose business plan is based on deceiving its customers can succeed with that strategy for very long. Imax Corporation, whose very name means “image maximum,” has spent four decades persuading the public that that name is synonymous with “big,” with giant screens, with an experience that is completely unlike that of conventional multiplex cinema. If, for perfectly understandable business reasons, Imax now has to move into those smaller screens, let it distinguish this new product from the other screens in that theater, as a “premium multiplex experience,” as Sydney’s Mark Bretherton has suggested. But expecting the ticket-buying public to believe that that experience is identical to one on a screen three or four times larger is insulting. People who have been to a true giant-screen theater will realize they have been misled, and will be disappointed, if not angry. Those who haven’t will wonder what the big deal about IMAX is, and will assume that any real giant-screen theater they come across in the future has nothing better to offer and perhaps never will have the real IMAX Experience.
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Yeah, I read about this earlier this year. Fucking stupid.
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Yeah, I read about this earlier this year. Fucking stupid.

Bullshit like this pisses me off. Stupid Canada.
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So which of the NYC Imaxes are real, before I buy tickets to Avatar 3D?
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So which of the NYC Imaxes are real, before I buy tickets to Avatar 3D?
http://www.lfexaminer.com/ImaxMapUS.htm Looks like Palisades Center, Loews Lincoln Square, American Museum of Nat History (if they are showing it) are your best bets. Lincoln Square seems to be the best option.
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http://www.lfexaminer.com/ImaxMapUS.htm

Looks like Palisades Center, Loews Lincoln Square, American Museum of Nat History (if they are showing it) are your best bets.

Lincoln Square seems to be the best option.

Thanks! You da man.
post #9 of 23
the imax at the bridge in LA is the best imax i've ever been to. The screen is HUGE and the stadium style seating is unique. saw an "imax" movie in san diego (dark knight) and was VERY dissapointed w/ that "imax" "experience"
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the imax at the bridge in LA is the best imax i've ever been to. The screen is HUGE and the stadium style seating is unique.

saw an "imax" movie in san diego (dark knight) and was VERY dissapointed w/ that "imax" "experience"

Almost all purpose built Imax theaters have stadium style seating, which is placed fairly close to the screen. This is the entire point of Imax, it "immerses" the viewer in the picture. This is what most of these multiplex "Imax" screens lack. The theater is scaled all wrong, and the screen is too small. It makes all the difference in the world.
post #11 of 23
I was deceived like this before. I went to a true IMAX theater in Boston [at the aquarium]. Watched some shark thing that came with the ticket and it was amazing. Clearest picture I've seen in a theaters. Huge screen, good sound, etc. I heard about some IMAX theater in Connecticut and they had superman playing [which was a long movie that sucked] and it was a terrible experience. Same screen, 5 minutes of 3D total during the movie, and the only thing that was different was that the sound was loud. So other than that, I paid like 15 bucks or something for a ticket. Total rip. And their analogy is ridiculous. It's like saying here's a BMW and you get a Volkswagen. Yea still German, but not a BMW. [No offense to VW, I used to have one. Just making a point].
post #12 of 23
"But Gelfond flatly rejected this possibility, offering an absurdly flawed analogy with BMW automobiles. He said that the German carmaker offers the 7-series line of larger, more powerful, luxury models as well as the smaller, entry-level 3-series cars. “People don’t say ‘The 3 isn’t a real BMW because it’s smaller" Actually - met people who turn their noses up at the BMW 3-series and Mercedes C-class. I am a big fan of the M-series e30 - E92 though so I don't worry about that. As for the real IMAX versus the rebranded small theatre - I agree, that is poor form on the part of the theatres AND IMAX.
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IMAX- mini?
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IMAX- mini?
MinImax
post #15 of 23
the bigger rip off here is paying to see Avatar, on any screen.
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