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Do people know about the meaning of Christmas?

post #1 of 16
12/24/09 at 9:22pm
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Do people know what Christmas means?

Most if not all churches I go to always talk about how the world doesn't know what Christmas means, how we're the only ones who hold on to this secret, blah blah. Christ wasn't even born on December 25th and I dont think a lot of Christians know this 'secret'.

I mean you're bombarded with the nativity scene year after year. Is it at all possible that people don't know what Christmas was originally about?

It seemed more like church rhetoric with me. We're not the freemasons or Gnostics. I always thought people knew Christmas was not just about Santa and Easter about a bunny.


Do they?
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post #2 of 16
12/24/09 at 9:25pm
It's all about the pagan sun worship.
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post #3 of 16
12/24/09 at 9:27pm
Really? The winter solstice celebration was "originally" about this?
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post #4 of 16
12/24/09 at 9:39pm
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winter solstice is i believe just one theory of why christmas is celebrated on december 25th (not widely accepted from what I understand). Some believe Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (a roman festival), some believe 9 months after Christ had been conceived, but I think it's difficult to refute that however the date was selected the new date was imbued with a new meaning and is now primarily to celebrate the birth of Christ

ie however the date was selected is besides teh point
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post #5 of 16
12/24/09 at 9:55pm
Yea it's about buying things. Everyone knows that.
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post #6 of 16
12/24/09 at 10:26pm
The "birth of christ" thing was just an excuse to celebrate a holiday that lots of different cultures celebrated and people didn't want to give up by converting.

BTW, Mithras was born on December 25 before anyone ever heard of Jesus.
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post #7 of 16
12/24/09 at 10:31pm
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Originally Posted by Jbreen1 View Post
Yea it's about buying things for yourself. Fuck everyone else!

ftfy
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post #8 of 16
12/24/09 at 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post
Do people know what Christmas means?

Most if not all churches I go to always talk about how the world doesn't know what Christmas means, how we're the only ones who hold on to this secret, blah blah. Christ wasn't even born on December 25th and I dont think a lot of Christians know this 'secret'.

Just as the common people you refer to are too ignorant to know what Christmas really means, 'learned' Christians are probably too ignorant or in denial to realize that Jesus was a Jew. As a fellow Hebrew, I savor the fact that Europe has for 2000 years worshiped a member of the tribe as their god. Most "Christians" of course refuse to acknowledge that, which is one of the most comical displays of human parochialism I can think of. Will it ruin the Christian's evening if I reveal the unpleasant truth that Abraham was an Iraqi? Aiy, it is true- he was from Ur in Mesopotamia.
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post #9 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:01pm
Seriously, know one gives a fuck about jesus anymore.
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post #10 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:03pm
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It's all about the pagan sun worship.

I thought it was about the drinking, gambling, and orgies...
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post #11 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:36pm
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Just as the common people you refer to are too ignorant to know what Christmas really means, 'learned' Christians are probably too ignorant or in denial to realize that Jesus was a Jew. As a fellow Hebrew, I savor the fact that Europe has for 2000 years worshiped a member of the tribe as their god. Most "Christians" of course refuse to acknowledge that, which is one of the most comical displays of human parochialism I can think of. Will it ruin the Christian's evening if I reveal the unpleasant truth that Abraham was an Iraqi? Aiy, it is true- he was from Ur in Mesopotamia.

Really? You believe "most 'christians'" refuse to acknowledge Hay-sus was a Jew?
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post #12 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:40pm
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Really? You believe "most 'christians'" refuse to acknowledge Hay-sus was a Jew?

It's well known he was Mexican.
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post #13 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:42pm
Christmas? Are you sure you don't mean Xmas, the Mid-Winter Sex Festival?
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post #14 of 16
12/24/09 at 11:53pm
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i know for sure that christ was black. and ripped too. could probably beat your hebrew ass.

and i believe iraq and mespotamia have overlapping geographic regions, but that doesn't make abraham an iraqi. it makes him an ur.
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post #15 of 16
12/25/09 at 12:18am
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I thought it was about the drinking, gambling, and orgies...
You mean that isn't the procedure for pagan sun worship? Crap. P.s: That pole is awful.
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