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post #421 of 567
Ah you guys are very observant! hah Yeah I agree with you rjmaiorano... 5 would be the max in a season. I remember a coach i had last year saying they were something that should be done rarely, but done well. Those words have stuck with me since. bach, I don't think that's a good idea. Your coaches know best, even when you think they don't. Doing sneaky training on your own will not necessarily improve your performance. If anything, doing extra training will eventually become counter productive. You see it with novices every year. Our novices aren't permitted to erg without a coach present for the first few weeks. This helps establish good technique and prevent bad habits on the erg. Rowing is a sport where long term goals are important and your training will reflect this. Have you done any 5k's yet? Or a 30 minute erg test?
post #422 of 567
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If anything, doing extra training will eventually become counter productive.

well i dropped my 2k by almost a minute after 6 weeks and im pretty sure that's because i've been working hard. that being said, i'll definitely look out for signs of overtraining.

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Have you done any 5k's yet? Or a 30 minute erg test?

i've done 6k's and 10k's but they weren't tests.
post #423 of 567
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Originally Posted by unclesam099 View Post
2:07? Come on, girls on my old team did better than that, even while working on their form. I mean this in a good way. Trust me, your body can do so much more than you think that you can

It's your mind that holds you back. Especially a guy your size. FWIW, I was 6'3" 182lbs when doing all of these PRs and workouts that I've posted here. Heck, I did a marathon (42,195) at a 1:55.x, ended up around 2hr 40min. So you definitely can do 2:00 for an hour.

Hahahahahaha, pwned indeed. In my defense, my PR on the hour (not pulled as a test) is around 1:54-1:55. The piece I did the other night was focused on form and flushing out lactate.
post #424 of 567
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Hahahahahaha, pwned indeed. In my defense, my PR on the hour (not pulled as a test) is around 1:54-1:55. The piece I did the other night was focused on form and flushing out lactate.

Yes, I thought about that, too. Recovery is something that I was never good at. We had one weekend that we were only racing Notre Dame so we did an "easy" 5k the day before the race. I started out at like a 1:40 and had to slow myself way down. I ended up doing a 17:32 (1:45 avg) at an 18-20spm as an "easy" piece.

Do you have a video camera and TV screen or mirrors to study your form? Has anyone done that sort of thing before?
post #425 of 567
I rowed today
post #426 of 567
I broke 7:00 for the first time last night. It feels great.
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I broke 7:00 for the first time last night. It feels great.

Impressive stuff! I normally do 500m in 1m30 something and 7km with a 2 minute split; not sure what my 2km benchmark is. I should find out.
post #428 of 567
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Well, damn, went 6:50.2 on a 2k today. Just been feeling shitty all week and didn't pace myself well on the test; now I'll have really have to prove myself in seat races over the next 2-3 days. We race the 16th.
post #429 of 567
warming up for weightlifting i decided to do a 500m test, 1:30.4

how can i predict my 2k pace from a 500m test?
post #430 of 567
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warming up for weightlifting i decided to do a 500m test, 1:30.4

how can i predict my 2k pace from a 500m test?

You can't.

500m and 2k are completely different.

You can set up and do [ ( 500m on/30" off ) x 4 ] to begin to predict. Once you can do [ ( 500m on/5" off ) x 4 ] at a certain pace, then you'll be able to do that for 2k straight, no problem.

Any schlep can do 500m using sheer muscle - it's 45-50 strokes. It's that next 1500m (especially the 3rd and 4th 500m) that separates the men from the boys.

Edit to add: Today will be the first day OTW of the season for me
post #431 of 567
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Originally Posted by unclesam099 View Post
You can't.

500m and 2k are completely different.

You can set up and do [ ( 500m on/30" off ) x 4 ] to begin to predict. Once you can do [ ( 500m on/5" off ) x 4 ] at a certain pace, then you'll be able to do that for 2k straight, no problem.

Any schlep can do 500m using sheer muscle - it's 45-50 strokes. It's that next 1500m (especially the 3rd and 4th 500m) that separates the men from the boys.

Edit to add: Today will be the first day OTW of the season for me

+1... 500m doesn't quite get you into lactic acid burn or any cardiovascular shenanigans just yet. Not saying your time isn't good, but it's like telling an athletic 230lb linebacker to sprint 400m, he'll run it fast, but how's the other 1200m going to do?

Also, unclesam, I got the impression you were no longing rowing... are you still competing?
post #432 of 567
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Well, damn, went 6:50.2 on a 2k today. Just been feeling shitty all week and didn't pace myself well on the test; now I'll have really have to prove myself in seat races over the next 2-3 days. We race the 16th.

That makes two of us! Just pulled a 6:49.3 this morning, my slowest of the 3 2ks I've taken this winter. Feel like I've lost some fitness recently and need to try and get it back.
post #433 of 567
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Originally Posted by unclesam099 View Post
You can't... Any schlep can do 500m using sheer muscle - it's 45-50 strokes.
hmmmmm, this article says peak power can predict yr 2000m time pretty good; r = 0.92, p < 0.0001. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...3E%3Cbr%20/%3E
post #434 of 567
did a 2k today, finally went sub 7 500 26 SPM 1:44.4 1000 26 SPM 1:44.8 1500 26 SPM 1:43.9 2000 27 SPM 1:41.7 avg/500m 1:43.7 total 6:54.8 avg HR 175 (92.5% max HR) peak HR 187 (98.9% max HR) i was trying to follow this strategy: 800m (40%) @ Goal Pace (GP) +1; 600m (30%) @ GP; 400m (20%) @ GP – 1; and 200m (10%) @ GP – 2. it was pretty painless for a 2k. not much lactic acid burn till 1000 left or so. ofc this means i need to row harder next time -__-
post #435 of 567
'grats bach. It seems liked you really killed it in your sprint.
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