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post #136 of 328
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no numbnuts, other than the lameness of ebay listings posted here
^^ Oh, hey dork from P1. Not done trying to mislead the fora? Since you insist on trying to damage my rep, I will clarify. Listing 260 ties takes time. With a family and a real job I dont get alot of time for it. Sometimes I have to break up the work into 2 segments in a day (most of the 2 a day bumps were weekends - I coach 2 soccer teams, and have other commitments, want more detail? Call me later, I will tell you more). While you probably think I am gaming the system, I'm not. If I had the time to list 30 or 50 ties at once I would but I don't. I have time to list 15 or 20 at a time. IT TOOK ME 20 DAYS TO LIST ALL THAT STUFF. Not only do I have a limited time for listing, but I also need to fit in prep time, photography, and all the work that goes into shipping. Ask anyone here who I have sold to if they dont get their shit before they hit submit on the payment button. Why dont I wait? Because I think 15 or 20 items is enough stuff to warrant it. I dont see you complaining when someone adds new stock to non-ebay threads. Why are you going after me? Likely because you dont like the ebay threads, well, brah, your problem. I'm not asking you to buy. But plenty of folks do and appreciate the effort I put in.
post #137 of 328
Well, I admit Sold bumps is something I have been doing lately. I thought we had this discussion a while back, and the consensus was if it's a daily inventory update it was ok. I do agree with idfnl that if the last time someone saw the thread was 'Sold out' on the first page, they likely wouldn't check again unless they see 'Added Stock', etc. So as it stands I'll cut out the Sold bumps if it's that big a deal, but will continue Inventory updates, which has helped many a Gentlemen find NWT Made in Italy 100% Cashmere & 100% Silk Scarves by BB, New Stock added 12/21 Drop
post #138 of 328
I agree with the few guys like FStyle or Holdfast that this current system, though not perfect, is a very good one and don't want to see any drastic change.

Like any community, there are clearly set etiquette/rules and members are expected to observe them. The ones set for B&S are pretty clear and it's up to us to respect and follow. Much of the discussions here seem to come from an intention of some to not follow them for one reason or another.

So before we dig too deep into what needs to be changed, let's ask ourselves if we have followed the set discipline and if we're being considerate for other members. Most of us like and trust SF B&S because this is a respectful place to conduct simple transactions of nice clothing stuff, so keep it this way. I can't see too big of a mess here if we follow the rules and are courteous to our fellow sellers. Why create unnecessary extra work for the mods and run the risk of complicating a good simple system just because we're not doing our part?

Confession: Even though I don't do 'sold bumps' or play tricks with my threads, I'm guilty of occasionally answering questions in my own threads and impulsive posts when I see nice stuff being offered by good sellers. I'll refrain from doing so from now on and do it only via PM if I feel so strongly about it.

I may sound naively idealistic, but think about it, is it really that hard to understand and follow the B&S rules? What are the 'major issues' that cannot be dealt with by simply respecting such rules? I think the solution lies in us, not the mods or the system.
post #139 of 328
I think some of the point is the 'Rules' are not so clear, not that some Members have "an intention of some to not follow them for one reason or another." 'If you want people to see you have stuff for sale, put that info along with a link to your sale thread in your signature, and post useful posts around the forum. If I see a bunch of one word or useless posts from a person with any links in his sig, I will watch and likely ban.' - J It seems common sense enough, but I don't/can't see not posting on someone's thread if it's a useful Question/Comment that might help out others.
post #140 of 328
News flash - we make the rules up as we go. Essentially, the only rule is "Be cool, don't be a dick." You can't really talk your way around that one. Please remember that you are here as guests, and that we expect you to be courteous to us, the hosts, and to our other guests.
post #141 of 328
i usually reply with "pm sent" when buying something if seller has other items as a token of my appreciation to bump their thread for their services. i doubt sellers mind, well, that seller at least
post #142 of 328
Stupid question: How do you change the title of a thread? If people change the thread title to "Sold" or at least take out (from the title) the items that were sold, I think it'd be a nice courtesy to people who click on threads only to find the item they're looking for was sold already.
post #143 of 328
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Originally Posted by chronic View Post
Stupid question: How do you change the title of a thread? If people change the thread title to "Sold" or at least take out (from the title) the items that were sold, I think it'd be a nice courtesy to people who click on threads only to find the item they're looking for was sold already.

After you click edit, click advanced below the text box.
post #144 of 328
or just double click on the title on the main sales forum.
post #145 of 328
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Originally Posted by trader View Post
i usually reply with "pm sent" when buying something if seller has other items as a token of my appreciation to bump their thread for their services. i doubt sellers mind, well, that seller at least

I obvously don't mind this as a seller, and when a buyer, I do it as a courtesy to sellers with multiple items for sale too.
post #146 of 328
So what is the deal with items being no longer for sale and then relisted in a new thread or sold and then bumped for back for sale? In reality is this just another method of getting a free bump without a price drop? I've seen a number of these recently and I'm sure each seller has a legitimate reason why...
post #147 of 328
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Originally Posted by jreigen View Post
So what is the deal with items being no longer for sale and then relisted in a new thread or sold and then bumped for back for sale? In reality is this just another method of getting a free bump without a price drop? I've seen a number of these recently and I'm sure each seller has a legitimate reason why...

+1, I see a lot of "consolidate" and 're-consolidate' type of threads, where there's really no purpose other than to get a bump

It's called "Gaming the System"
post #148 of 328
The only time I've relisted items is when I've got a new batch of stock in, and I've added the previous items in the new thread (and deleted them from the old thread). This is a very rare occurence (probably once in the past year) since I usually sell all my stock before getting more (since it's a little hobby, not a business, for me so I don't like to have too much invested at any one time).

Consolidating without adding new stock in the new thread is indeed gaming the system and I don't like seeing it. But if it's just once or twice, from otherwise good sellers, I feel able to turn a blind eye to it. Shouldn't really be happening though. But this is partly because I like only having a single thread at any given time myself. If I got lots of different kinds of stock at the same time, I guess I might feel differently, and will wait to hear from sellers who do these kinds of thread before judging them further.
post #149 of 328
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So what is the deal with items being no longer for sale and then relisted in a new thread or sold and then bumped for back for sale? In reality is this just another method of getting a free bump without a price drop? I've seen a number of these recently and I'm sure each seller has a legitimate reason why...
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+1, I see a lot of "consolidate" and 're-consolidate' type of threads, where there's really no purpose other than to get a bump It's called "Gaming the System"
I dunno, but when I have 3 threads going, each with multiple (ie more than just a few ) and they get down to 1-2 items each, I sometimes consolidate into one with my new stuff to list (haven't done it in awile cause I haven;t really been selling all that much) Actually planning to do one soon. Don't see how that;'s "gaming" the system. Some threads have several pages of posts, just making it easier for everyone. I think we're getting a tad too granular. This has turned into a "Let's think of everything that bothers us about B&S" thread which is just not conducive to the bigger picture. So what's next community? What else can we think of that just bothers us oen way or another? 1st one to come up with a better one gets a HUGE oatmeal raisin cookie.
post #150 of 328
Tracking 100+ items isnt easy. Right now Ive got about 40 or 50 items listed on SF. Consolidation is a way to make things a little easier for sellers. While most of us make some good money off the sales, its a lot of work (in addition to our jobs) juggling 4 or 5 threads with 10-20 items, taking markdowns, sending out a few packages a day, tracking shipments, payments. It aint easy.
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