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post #121 of 328
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Originally Posted by eztantz View Post
I was wondering the same. If there would be one one thread rule enforced it would be absurd to have to drop everything at the same time while on the other hand having separate drops for each item would result in continuous bumping - item by item - everytime a thread moves off the front page.

I am all for cutting big sale thread a slack and allow price cut on selected items. Look, we have a problem with lack of real estate on the front page and we should do everything to encourage sellers to put as many items as possible in one sale thread because that saves real estate. There have to be some preferential treatments towards big sale threads. They themselves help to solve the problem we are facing.
post #122 of 328
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Originally Posted by furo View Post
Actually I think making the seller the only person allowed to post in a FS thread would clear a lot of this BS up, and fast. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense.

I dislike this idea- I really like the commentary from knowledgeable folks that breaks out from time to time in B&S.
post #123 of 328
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Originally Posted by james_timothy View Post
I dislike this idea- I really like the commentary from knowledgeable folks that breaks out from time to time in B&S.

True. But "from time to time" is exactly that.

From what I've seen, the amount of useful info is greatly outweighed by the throng of useless posting such as "nice kicks" or "pm sent" or "wish that was my size" or "this seller rocks teh big one11!one"
post #124 of 328
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Originally Posted by furo View Post
What I'd like to see less of, and I'm guilty of it myself, is the good 'ol boy network of bumping threads because you like the seller...

Embarrassed now, because I've done this for nice items/good sellers too.

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Sellers should be limited to the number of threads they can have stuff in. Seeing one seller with 5 threads, each with 5 items, all bumped to the top page at once, is ridiculous.

Yep, I think almost everyone can agree on this one, and that it's a little bit irritating.

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And finally, this is the big one in my opinion: Maximize the number of characters allowed in the Title of the Thread, so that multiple item threads are more highly encouraged. This will also benefit buyers who seek more accurate titles to include sizes they want.

Yes. Increasing the character limit would be GREATLY appreciated. Often I want to provide lots of information in the title, but can't.

Also, increase the number of threads on the front page!

I also like the idea of allowing sellers to lock their own threads. I think this is actually an option in vBulletin (to allow users to lock their own threads) so could be easily implemented. I often see my old threads being bumped by someone else after everything is sold, and I feel bad about that (even though it's out of my control) because it's detrimental to other sellers. I would happily lock my threads once items are sold, to prevent that happening.

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Originally Posted by FStyles View Post
What I don't understand is if all these buyers and sellers are here doing business as it stands today, why is there so much desire to change?

sellers: You're making money without paying the man.
buyers: You're buying great stuff at low prices due to this

Its very clear cut that if things DO start to change (like the enforcement/rules/regulations/processes suggested here) it will;be done at OUR expense.

I strongly agree with this overall sentiment. There are some niggles about how things work here. But overall, it's about 95% perfect, and that's a HELL of a lot better than eBay or any other B&S board I've visited. There's a real risk of throwing the baby out with the bathwater by making too many changes, introducing more bureaucracy and fees.

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Originally Posted by wj2009 View Post
Holdfast has made many good points in his posts.

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Originally Posted by Asch View Post
I voted "yes" on the ban (although it looks like "sold" bumps are already sort-of-banned). But then a good point was made (by Holdfast?) about the fact that the number of "sold" bumps is limited by the number of items in a thread -- creating a kind of parity for sellers with different number of items for sale in a single thread. Not sure how I feel now, but I don't use "sold" bumps myself.

Thanks guys, I'm glad you made it through my rather lengthy posts and found something useful in there.!

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
I've been reading this thread with great interest. So let me derail it, and ask you what you would like if and when Styleforum Marketplace does come into being. Would set prices for services allow the market to regulate all of these problems to the benefit of both the sellers and the buyers?

Personally, I'm happy enough with the current system not to want ANY major changes.

But if they come in I would prefer a small listing fee (ringfenced for SF's benefit) to a percentage on sales. I don't have any strong opinion on paying a dollar for a bump, personally. But it would be detrimental to lower-value item sellers, I guess.

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Please discuss the merits and demerits of different systems. What is the Styleforum B&S worth to you? How do we create a system that improves on what we have already?

Overall, I'd be strongly inclined to keep the current system as it is, occasional warts and all.
post #125 of 328
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

Overall, I'd be strongly inclined to keep the current system as it is, occasional warts and all.

+5,000,000,000+1.

A wise man named Holdfast once put this into perspective for me in an offline discussion, "If you want the to keep all the benes we have now, put up with the "warts." "

Of course, not verbatim, as I can't even start to imitate his classy responses
post #126 of 328
I put tens of stuff on the same thread. Then I update it with price updates and in no time it goes down with people giving "free bumps" to their friends' threads. I guess it is much better to make a separate thread for every single item.
post #127 of 328
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Originally Posted by PocketCircle View Post
I put tens of stuff on the same thread. Then I update it with price updates and in no time it goes down with people giving "free bumps" to their friends' threads.

+1
post #128 of 328
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Originally Posted by PocketCircle View Post
I put tens of stuff on the same thread. Then I update it with price updates and in no time it goes down with people giving "free bumps" to their friends' threads. I guess it is much better to make a separate thread for every single item.

I just hate to see this happen. To me, the forum should set the rules in a way that big sale threads have advantage over smaller threads, otherwise you only encourage everyone to start dozens of threads and make things much worse.

How about this? Let's have a "mega sale" sub-forum. Each thread must have 15 or more items to be posted there. I know I will visit this sub-forum much more frequently than the general b&s forum.
post #129 of 328
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

Yes. Increasing the character limit would be GREATLY appreciated. Often I want to provide lots of information in the title, but can't.

Also, increase the number of threads on the front page!



End of story. Lock this thread.
post #130 of 328
So my scarves thread got locked because I posted
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To everyone who ordered the second batch of navy windowpanes, I just got back from the post office; 1.5 hours later... thanks international people . They went out today. I still have some more windowpanes coming in later in the week.
Am I suppose to send out 16 PMs, with a 60 second timeout between each, with a max PM box of 500? Ive had to delete 100 messages a day just to keep my box clear. I am keeping everyone updated on stock, and when their stuff got sent out. Ugh.
post #131 of 328
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Originally Posted by fcuknu View Post
So my scarves thread got locked because I posted



Am I suppose to send out 16 PMs, with a 60 second timeout between each, with a max PM box of 500? Ive had to delete 100 messages a day just to keep my box clear.

I am keeping everyone updated on stock, and when their stuff got sent out. Ugh.

I think it was locked because a lot of your posts in that thread weren't price drops but I'm just speculating
post #132 of 328
Well what am I suppose to do? I was getting running out and getting new stock in constantly. All the posts were stock related, or answered questions that I got 5-10 PMs on.
post #133 of 328
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post
[*] The wool ties are very popular on ebay too, they sell fast, some dork on P1 posted all my bumps but failed to mention that I was adding 10-20 ties at a time, and the bumps took place over the course of 20 DAYS. I listed over 260 wool ties, so the way he went about the post was misleading. I try to follow the rules and felt it appropriate to bump my thread when I had a reasonable body of new stuff to announce. No different from someone adding a suit, shirt or pair of shoes to their existing thread.

[*] Also, ^^ the way threads are structured you really expect me to post 260 ties in a thread? Come on.

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no numbnuts, other than the lameness of ebay listings posted here

im talking about

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 6th, 2009, 06:42 PM
NEW ONES ADDED

I've added a bunch on new wool ties, check back as I will be listing them for the next couple of hours

why don't you just wait until you list them then

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 6th, 2009, 09:32 PM
36 wool ties added in total, all done for the night... more tomorrow

eheh good way to bump

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 27th, 2009, 03:50 PM

15 more added:

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53...3D10%26_sc%3D1

Adding more tonight!

just add them now or post later

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 27th, 2009, 08:03 PM

12 more added, have a look!

uh ok

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 28th, 2009, 03:54 PM
14 more added, will be adding more later tonight.

did you find these the next day?

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Originally Posted by idfnl
November 28th, 2009, 07:33 PM
About 15 more added. That's going to be it for a few months.

i guess you found these ties a couple of hours later then?

maybe everyone else should break up their big hauls and post a few, post that they will add some that night, post some more, etc
post #134 of 328
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Originally Posted by fcuknu View Post
Well what am I suppose to do? I was getting running out and getting new stock in constantly. All the posts were stock related, or answered questions that I got 5-10 PMs on.

the rules are pretty straightforward brah
post #135 of 328
So if something is sold out, why would anybody think to look at the thread again, unless it is announced in a reply? Why would they look in the OP, they have already seen it is sold out.
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