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post #8251 of 46421
are you supposed to break a deadlift off the ground primarily via knee extension and not hip extension? i was experiencing significant back pain/tenderness when starting the lift with a hip extension, but after switching to breaking by knee extension, the pain has all but vanished.
post #8252 of 46421
Short answer, yes.
post #8253 of 46421
Does anyone know of a protein shake that does not contain milk, soy or egg products?
I have an intolerance to milk and at least one other ingredient listed and I'm trying to isolate the offender.

This seems like an impossible request, but if anyone knows of such a drink, it will be here, otherwise, I'll be sending chicken breasts through the juicer.
Thanks!
-Cod
post #8254 of 46421
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Originally Posted by CodPiece View Post

Does anyone know of a protein shake that does not contain milk, soy or egg products?
I have an intolerance to milk and at least one other ingredient listed and I'm trying to isolate the offender.

This seems like an impossible request, but if anyone knows of such a drink, it will be here, otherwise, I'll be sending chicken breasts through the juicer.
Thanks!
-Cod

beef
gemma (pea)
hemp
rice
post #8255 of 46421
oh, and as a person that has tried blending chicken breast and drinking it.. I suggest not. it doesn't end very well.
post #8256 of 46421
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrchariybrown View Post

oh, and as a person that has tried blending chicken breast and drinking it.. I suggest not. it doesn't end very well.

Raw or cooked?
Seriously though, thanks for the links.
post #8257 of 46421
Romanian deadlifts are becoming one of my favourite lifts. The feeling at the bottom of the lift just feels great in my hamstrings and the pulling up movement is good too. Its much better then good mornings, which just feel tedious to me and I can never get as low, not even to parallel and with RDLs I can move proper weight instead of having to be careful and keep low weight with good mornings. Is there any point in doing both? I might just drop good mornings and do more RDLs. Todays 5+ day for the squat was

Front squat 5,5,9
Barbell lunges 10,10,10
Good mornings 10,10,10
RDL 10,10,10
Heavy abs 10,10,10
Calf raises 20,20,20

I want to replace Barbell lunges with something else for my quads, I always lose my balance going up on them and slip and they just dont feel right. Any recommendations for a replacement?
post #8258 of 46421
You're not hitting your quads enough on the FS?
post #8259 of 46421
I am hitting them pretty hard, but not as hard as i'd like to. Im doing the recommended percentages of 531 and more then the recommended reps, but they're not that sore. I don't want to bastardize the program and increase the percentages so I thought another assistance exercise would be good, but lunges are shit.
post #8260 of 46421
Walking and jump lunges are one of the best hamstrings exercises.
Linky
Split squats (ie: one leg elevated) is more quads than lunges, IIRC.

Fuji, DOMs is from lots of eccentric or an increase in volume, it is not an indicator of work done.
post #8261 of 46421

I'm not a fan of lunges, but with the routine you're doing I would keep them in or your glutes will probably be lacking for back squats whenever you choose to do them.  If you feel lunges in your quads more than anything, you should check your form.  It could be because you do front squats first so your quads are pre-exhausted, but if you are in fact putting most of the stress on your quads then you are also putting a lot of stress on your knees which isn't good.

 

I'm not sure what your full routine is, but you aren't doing a 531.

post #8262 of 46421
Depending on how long your stride it it changes how much emphasis is on your quads. I do very short strides usually so I feel it mainly in my quads not my glutes. I am doing 531 other then the fact that I do front squats instead of back squats. I follow the rep scheme and percentages and I press, deadlift, squat and bench and do assistance work. Your right about the glutes though, I need to train them more, I want to eventually change over to back squats, but I find the form so awkward. I can do high bar, but low bar doesn't feel right.
post #8263 of 46421

It's clear that you're enthusiastic about lifting which is really good, but--and I mean no offense by this-- based on what you have said you are also probably not knowledgeable enough to make changes to the routine.

 

The front squat is significantly different from the back squat, and the entire program is built around the core lifts so not doing back squats makes a big difference.  What is it about the low bar squat that you are having trouble with?  The difference between high bar and low bar is relatively minor at a beginners level so you could do high bar until you can find someone to show you how to do low bar or you watch enough videos on it or whatever you need to do to feel comfortable.

 

For lunges, you can shorten your stride to put more emphasis on the quads, but this puts unnecessary stress on the knees for reasons very similar to why when you squat you need to at least go to parallel.  The whole point of lunges is to work your glutes.  I know you probably want massive quads for their aesthetics, but you need to build up your hamstrings and glutes as well or you risk destroying your knees.

 

You're also probably doing too much assistance work, but I would need more info to make that assessment.  Suffice it to say that RDLs, or any form of deadlift really, is very taxing on your central nervous system.

post #8264 of 46421
I find the way you squat with low bar awkward. I like high bar and front squats because you pretty much just sit straight down and go fully ATG, but with low bar I just find it awkward bending forward and not going ATG. I can do the motion, I just move significantly less weight on it then a front squat, probably because I've been doing front squats for a fairly long time, i'm also fairly tall so that might be the problem. I want to change over to low bar back eventually because it helps with glutes and I know I would be able to move more weight on it. I'm fine with the amount of assistance work I do, my program is

deadlift day
Kroc rows 3x30
Lat pull down 3x10
Shrugs 3x10
Heavy ab work 3x10

Bench press day
Dumbbell press 3x10
incline press 3x10
Close grip bench press 3x5
Close grip dumbbell press 3x20

Squat day
Lunges 3x10
Good Mornings 3x10
RDL 3X10
Heavy abs 3x10
Calf raises 3x20

Press day
Dumbbell press 3x10
Arnold press 3x10
Upright rows 3x10
Barbell curls 3x15

I know thats considered a lot for assistance work and I do all the lifts at pretty high intensity, but I sleep about 10 hours a day right now, eat very well with about 5000 calories a day or so and I'm 17 so I can recover pretty well.
post #8265 of 46421
My arms are getting noticeably bigger by waiting 2 days in between workouts rather than doing them every other day. I've got that cool groove in between the biceps and triceps now - maybe old hat to some, but completely new to an ectomorph like moi.
Edited by willpower - 7/29/11 at 10:02pm
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