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post #57136 of 57266
Guys, weird question. I feel like I'm stuck. Since a few months I didn't make any strength progress, didn't gain any size but also didn't lose any muscle or strenght. But I'm losing my motivation and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I can't really figure out how to overcome this situation on my own so I consider getting some kind of coaching for a while. As I've said before, the gym is all health&lifestyle bullshit, we don't have any bulky, shredded manbeasts to idolize.
How should I proceed? I know that having an actual coach in the gym would be best but I don't see how to find one. How valuable would be some form of online coaching (check plausibility of workout plan, overlook diet, check form on video, etc.)

I'm kinda pissed because I feel like I invest way too much time for just staying the same.
post #57137 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Szeph el raton View Post

Guys, weird question. I feel like I'm stuck. Since a few months I didn't make any strength progress, didn't gain any size but also didn't lose any muscle or strenght. But I'm losing my motivation and I feel like I'm doing something wrong. I can't really figure out how to overcome this situation on my own so I consider getting some kind of coaching for a while.

You don't need a coach to tell you to eat more. Increase your daily calorie intake by 500-700 calories, and then come back in a month.
post #57138 of 57266
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

You don't need a coach to tell you to eat more. Increase your daily calorie intake by 500-700 calories, and then come back in a month.

But maybe a coach will help him with programming? You can't rely solely on food for strength and size gains, especially not quality size gains. Programming and in general paying attention to the actual training is more important than many people believe. Coaching and joining a club was the best lifting decisions I have made and got me great results I would not have been able to get by myself. Just make sure you get a good coach that has a track record of helping clients achieve the same goals as yours.
post #57139 of 57266

Mix up your exercises. The more you mix it up from time to time, the more you'll be activating different muscles, which will give you that little extra edge. For example, instead of just doing bent-over barbell rows every workout, go and do one-hand dumbell rows, t-bar rows, or seated cable rows instead. When you go back to barbell rows you'll notice a difference. Try it out.    

post #57140 of 57266
Btw, my injuries (or overuse problems) have almost fully gone away. Have trained quite a lot and seriously for the last month. Contacted my coach again to start a new program but without the individual coaching this time. I have no intentions to compete atm, but might be open to it in the future. Doing bench only could work if the low back and knee problems never fully go away. Current goal is 3 plate bench with 280 lbs before Xmas while staying below 200 BW.
post #57141 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Btw, my injuries (or overuse problems) have almost fully gone away. Have trained quite a lot and seriously for the last month. Contacted my coach again to start a new program but without the individual coaching this time. I have no intentions to compete atm, but might be open to it in the future. Doing bench only could work if the low back and knee problems never fully go away. Current goal is 3 plate bench with 280 lbs before Xmas while staying below 200 BW.

Good luck man, you took a ton of time to recover without losing interest in the sport. I think you'll do great as long as you listen to your body.
post #57142 of 57266

So at this point last year, I was about 10lbs lighter, not a big difference but noticeable in mirror. I'm also not as strong. Since I've mostly just maintained for the past half a year or so and haven't improved in any lifts except for random stuff like upper back dumbbells, etc, I'm thinking about just dream bulking up to 210 ish then cutting back down. For reference, I'm 6"/195ish right now. Don't really care about clothes since winter's coming. I'd estimate my bf to be around 18-20. Advice?

post #57143 of 57266
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

So at this point last year, I was about 10lbs lighter, not a big difference but noticeable in mirror. I'm also not as strong. Since I've mostly just maintained for the past half a year or so and haven't improved in any lifts except for random stuff like upper back dumbbells, etc, I'm thinking about just dream bulking up to 210 ish then cutting back down. For reference, I'm 6"/195ish right now. Don't really care about clothes since winter's coming. I'd estimate my bf to be around 18-20. Advice?

dream bulking is never a good idea, and especially not if you're 20% bf.
post #57144 of 57266

Not actually dreambulking, just eating over maintenance, would try to do it as cleanly as possible with fatty cuts of meats, etc. BF probably closer to 18. Just not sure which direction I should be going weight wise.

post #57145 of 57266
At 18-20% bodyfat? No question, I'd cut. 25% bodyfat "yo I'm bulking" chubbies look horrific.
post #57146 of 57266

I don't entertain any thoughts of "bulking" if I'm over 12%

post #57147 of 57266
so i pretty much wont progress until i eat at maintenance again?
post #57148 of 57266
Don't want to sound like I am ranting, but I don't really understand this thought that you can only progress on caloric surplus.
How do you think weightlifters, powerlifters or any other strength athlete that stays within the same weight class progress?
Train more and smarter and take care of recovery and nutrition and you can progress on maintenance.
post #57149 of 57266
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Don't want to sound like I am ranting, but I don't really understand this thought that you can only progress on caloric surplus.
How do you think weightlifters, powerlifters or any other strength athlete that stays within the same weight class progress?
Train more and smarter and take care of recovery and nutrition and you can progress on maintenance.
You can… to a certain extent. Most strength athletes cut for competitions and most are also not natural.
post #57150 of 57266
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Originally Posted by tesseract View Post


You can… to a certain extent. Most strength athletes cut for competitions and most are also not natural.

 

I am not saying that maintaining your weight is as good for strength as gaining weight. Obviously you will get even stronger if you gain weight.

I am just sceptical of the fact that people below the advanced level need to gain weight in order to get stronger. Perhaps gaining weight is still ideal in most cases, as the beginner/intermediate can pack on more quality size in a given time frame than an advanced lifter, but if weight gain is not an option (for whatever reason) I still believe you can make decent progress in terms of muscle and strength gains at the same bodyweight.

 

Enhanced competitive strength athletes are not representative of the population at large. For every elite enhanced lifter there are tons of lifters that are natural, although not necessarily on the same relative level. They can also get stronger without gaining much weight.

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