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post #5401 of 57266
Yeah, I'm going to have to take the hit on this, $28 down the drain. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll give that a try.
post #5402 of 57266
I'd hang on to it and buy some Crystal Light to mix with it. The combination doesn't taste good or anything, but it's more tolerable than just BCAA + water.
post #5403 of 57266
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Originally Posted by shibbel View Post
Never in my life have I taken BCAAs in powder form, solo, with no flavoring, and mix ins- I have to tell you, this is the most god awful shit ever. I've had crap that didn't blend with water, tasted bad going down, and things that have left a very nasty aftertaste- but this is the first time I've had to take something that occupies all three categories.

I'm looking into BCAAs as well - never taken them before. What kind did you get, so I can avoid that brand?
post #5404 of 57266
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Originally Posted by shibbel View Post
Never in my life have I taken BCAAs in powder form, solo, with no flavoring, and mix ins- I have to tell you, this is the most god awful shit ever. I've had crap that didn't blend with water, tasted bad going down, and things that have left a very nasty aftertaste- but this is the first time I've had to take something that occupies all three categories.
Yup. That's why Scivation X-Tend FTW.
post #5405 of 57266
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Originally Posted by APK View Post
I'd hang on to it and buy some Crystal Light to mix with it. The combination doesn't taste good or anything, but it's more tolerable than just BCAA + water.

+1, try it out with some Crystal Lite and see if it's tolerable before throwing it out. It's not going to be remotely good but just chug it down quick and you won't taste much.
post #5406 of 57266
Paging pennglock, our subforum resident power clean expert!

So how does one develop more explosive strength in the second pull of the power clean? Leafing through ss2e, I'm still somewhat at a loss at how to get better at it. I'm not jerking the bar off the floor, I pull correctly and (relatively) slowly until I get to the hang position and then jump & rack, but I'm not progressing real quick when it comes to actual poundage.

As I understand it, one isn't supposed to catch the bar in a front squat position (hence "power" clean) - which would make cleaning heavier weights kind of easier, as you don't need to get the bar moving quite as high (but presents a flurry of other technique related questions, but I digress).
The real problem is that I'm just not getting the bar moving fast enough, and thus my elbows won't whip underneath it and there goes the rack.

Or is this just a case of grinding it out and focusing on technique, the plates on the bar will increase eventually?
post #5407 of 57266
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Originally Posted by TrH View Post
Paging pennglock, our subforum resident power clean expert!

So how does one develop more explosive strength in the second pull of the power clean? Leafing through ss2e, I'm still somewhat at a loss at how to get better at it. I'm not jerking the bar off the floor, I pull correctly and (relatively) slowly until I get to the hang position and then jump & rack, but I'm not progressing real quick when it comes to actual poundage.

As I understand it, one isn't supposed to catch the bar in a front squat position (hence "power" clean) - which would make cleaning heavier weights kind of easier, as you don't need to get the bar moving quite as high (but presents a flurry of other technique related questions, but I digress).
The real problem is that I'm just not getting the bar moving fast enough, and thus my elbows won't whip underneath it and there goes the rack.

Or is this just a case of grinding it out and focusing on technique, the plates on the bar will increase eventually?

I'm certainly not an expert (I can only power clean 245), but two things that I focus on for cleans....

1) Keep bar close to body -- the further away the bar is, that leverage works against you to put momentum on the bar and then you have to move your center-of-mass away from your centerline (ie, a vertical through the center of your feet) to catch it, which is unstable, so you feel as though you may need to get the bar higher to complete the catch.
2) Extend the hips -- almost like how you'd pretend to "hump" something as a child, thrust your hips forward. This should occur when the bar is above your knees from the first pull with your legs. The hip action is very important, as your hips are very strong and by extending them violently, you will impart a great deal of upward momentum to the bar.

The difference between power and regular cleans, as you noted, is the catch position-- powers should be hips above knees, full squat clean would be hips below knees on the catch. Both are important. The full squat clean allows a greater weight to be moved, but is more difficult technically because you need to move your body more in a shorter time frame, so it takes a lot of practice to get the timing and coordination down precisely.

It is good to see that you get your elbows under and up; most of the bros I see trying a clean get the bar to their armpits with the forearms vertical and elbows down and they think they're awesome. Of course, the bar doesn't stay there... they immediately have to drop it down.... I just want to scream "THAT'S NOT A FUCKING FRONT RACK YOU DOUCHE!!!!"
post #5408 of 57266
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Originally Posted by Scrumhalf View Post
I'm looking into BCAAs as well - never taken them before. What kind did you get, so I can avoid that brand?

Any BCAA that isn't flavored is going to taste god-awful, regardless of the brand.
post #5409 of 57266
The brand I bought was called Primaforce- it's not the brand that makes it bad though, it's the fact that it's unflavored. Luckily, I bought it from an online source who just so happens to have their warehouse/retail store near me, I just now read that they actually take back 1 opened item if at least 75% is left of the product along with free returns...awesome! They also carry the brand APK recommended, going to try that in Grape Bubblegum.
post #5410 of 57266
USPLabs is pricier than a lot of the unflavored BCAA options out there, but to me, it's worth the premium just for the flavor. And the price difference wasn't as great once I factored in the money spent on Crystal Light for mixing.

If you don't already, get yourself a small scale for weighing the powder, too. The scoop that comes with any BCAA is useless because of the light density of the powder.
post #5411 of 57266
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Originally Posted by speedy4500 View Post
Extend the hips -- almost like how you'd pretend to "hump" something as a child, thrust your hips forward. This should occur when the bar is above your knees from the first pull with your legs. The hip action is very important, as your hips are very strong and by extending them violently, you will impart a great deal of upward momentum to the bar.

Thanks for this cue, I'm pretty sure this is one of the major reasons my power cleans are stalling. Learning a proper clean would be awesome as well, but as you said it is even more challenging technically. I'll try to focus on driving the hips forward the next time I do cleans.

And btw, "only" cleaning 245 is pretty fucking awesome in my book - I'm only up to a shaky 150-155 myself.
post #5412 of 57266
First day at new gym, seems pretty good. Did deadlifts for the first time, lifted 130lb to try and get the right form didnt want to push it too much. Was piss easy to lift but i feel if i add too much more it would be hard to stop my back from rounding. My back feels pretty sore though so i guess it worked.
post #5413 of 57266
Make sure you get perfect form on dead lifts, push your ass as far out as you can, it looks pretty weird, but its important and push from the heel of your foot up through your legs and push out with your hips. Keep the bar as close to your legs as you can, it should rub up your shins as it goes up, I wear sweat pants when I do deads because of how uncomfortable it is. 130lb sounds about right for a starting weight. You go up pretty quickly with deads.
post #5414 of 57266
Gotta get flavored BCAAs, I fuxx w/the GNC fruit punch shit, love it, it's like fruit punch w/o the calories.
post #5415 of 57266
Video'd my DLs... need to keep scapulae retracted more. And finally hit 2xBW when I realized this. Oh well.
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