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post #50731 of 57263
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Another thing Ive read a lot is that you should do at least as many rows as presses. Some even say that you should do twices many rows. Supposedly its for shoulder health. Any of you follow that guideline?

My program doesn't look like that at all. My volume for benching and other presses is something like 3 times as much, and my shoulders feel fine. I do a lot of deadlifts, though. Since I learned to bench properly my shoulders haven't given me any trouble.

Every time I do a pressing movement I follow it with a rowing movement. Works for me.
post #50732 of 57263

I superset chest and back so I guess I even it out!

 

When I do db bench, I use those same DB's for 1 arm rows at the same reps that I pressed. Working pretty well so far.

 

I also started pressing again today. Elbows feel aight so far. Lets see how it goes!

post #50733 of 57263

Working lats to balance pressing doesn't work. Lats are strong internal rotators. 

post #50734 of 57263

so what's a good unassisted pull-up number to measure overall back strength/weight ratio? I'm pretty sure my back is weaker than it should be but just need a goal to set.


Edited by accordion - 2/16/15 at 7:20pm
post #50735 of 57263

Off topic-ish question...


I'm buying tickets to london and my friend and I will be going to dublin for a bit too. I'm seeing the cheapest fares have a layover in dublin on the return. If I buy one of these tickets and am in Dublin to begin with, can I skip the first flight and just go straight to my connection in dublin instead???

 


NVM: Apparently they cancel the entire trip if you miss first flight.


Edited by ridethecliche - 2/16/15 at 7:42pm
post #50736 of 57263
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

so what's a good unassisted pull-up number to measure overall back strength/weight ratio? I'm pretty sure my back is weaker than it should be but just need a goal to set.
Depends how much you press and how much you weigh

I would say you should be able to pull what you push though
post #50737 of 57263

like, sitting cable row pull or which pull?

post #50738 of 57263
Thread Starter 
You should be able to deadlift what you can push for sure. smile.gif
post #50739 of 57263
my weighted pull ups are about the same as my weighted dips.

I don't know if that is a fair comparison.

In any case, pushing vs pulling strength will be heavily dependent on limb length/ratio forearm to humerus as this will affect the leverage
post #50740 of 57263
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post

I don't think this is the case.

You may be right.
A common technique in the deadlift is to pull the shoulders back and down with the lats to keep the upper back tight. So perhaps not their "function".
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Working lats to balance pressing doesn't work. Lats are strong internal rotators. 
Yes. This is what doesn't make any sense when lifters say that lots of rows and big lats are good for balancing out pressing volume. Both just lead to internal rotation. I think strict rear delt work like face pulls are more effective for that purpose.
post #50741 of 57263
Thread Starter 
So close to 100 bench for 10. Got 9 and the last one was a little grindy
post #50742 of 57263
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Originally Posted by MGoCrimson View Post

Working lats to balance pressing doesn't work. Lats are strong internal rotators. 

You need to post more in this thread.
post #50743 of 57263
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post


You may be right.
A common technique in the deadlift is to pull the shoulders back and down with the lats to keep the upper back tight. So perhaps not their "function".
Yes. This is what doesn't make any sense when lifters say that lots of rows and big lats are good for balancing out pressing volume. Both just lead to internal rotation. I think strict rear delt work like face pulls are more effective for that purpose.

 

I do a set of pendlay rows every time i bench, but I also do chest flyes, DB chest presses, dips etc and don't always match it with an opposing back movement. But some of the other non-lifting activity I do works the back pretty heavily but doesn't do much for the chest.  My working weight for rows is almost exactly matched with my bench right now, although my PR for bench is a good bit higher.

 

What are some good exercises for shoulder mobility? I've realized that my flexibility there has fallen behind other areas (i.e. legs). I've started doing shoulder dislocations, door frame stretches, and the thing where you lock your hands behind your back after every lifting session.

post #50744 of 57263
Face pulls + reverse DB Flye are the also amazing for balancing pressing movements.

Your back and front muscle groups are built differently; It's not a 1:1 thing.
post #50745 of 57263
Going to thailand for rehab woooooooooo legal AAS
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