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post #50716 of 57477
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Originally Posted by Lagrangian View Post

I think I have to take some additional stuff from the math department. measure theory and some more topology would be nice. I mean anyone can wail on brouwer and kakutani all they want but having some other skills will come in handy if I end up doing auctions or pure micro.


No interest in topology, but yeah some measure theory would be cool in my masters, learn a bit of stochastic analysis.

Wasn't aware econ got so quant, never really respected people at lse who took i to be honest haha
post #50717 of 57477
well it is PhD level so it's all math
post #50718 of 57477
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Originally Posted by Lagrangian View Post

well it is PhD level so it's all math

yeah i'd assume you stop talking about theoretical indifference curves with no numbers attached after a while. You use topology and measure theory though? I thought it would just be calculus, differential equations and linear algebra.
post #50719 of 57477
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post


yeah i'd assume you stop talking about theoretical indifference curves with no numbers attached after a while. You use topology and measure theory though? I thought it would just be calculus, differential equations and linear algebra.

Point-set topology suffices. Fixed point theorem is needed for proving equilibria. By measure theory I think he just means measure theoretic probability. 

post #50720 of 57477
Never get the chance to learn stuff like that at lse at undergrad. All we learn is mathematical methods so like calc, linear algebra and differential equations. To a very high level not some american bull shit and then real and complex analysis if you want to. No topology or like set theory or that weird algebra stuff.
post #50721 of 57477
Looking forward to doing bodybuilding again. I'm going to do a 4x a week bro split but stagger some weak area training throughout my workouts so I'm hitting those with high frequency. Looking in the mirror I could use some delt, trap, and upper pec development work.
post #50722 of 57477
I like that this thread oscillates between being super bro-y and super nerdy.

Also thanks for the cues. Going to work on form and not raise weights till that's better.
post #50723 of 57477
Isolateral leg press is fucking tough. Way less than half of what I can do with both, even with my "good" leg. I'm down about 5lbs so far just fucking around... I dialed my shit in yesterday so I'm looking forward to see what I can do this week. Hoping to be down around 208 or so by March. I started late January around 216.
post #50724 of 57477
Try paused leg presses. They're great nod[1].gif
post #50725 of 57477
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Originally Posted by Landscape View Post
 

Anyone have experience with a torn ACL? Mainly how long till you could work out upper body without any limitations and how it affected your training in general. Hopefully I just have a very bad sprain but I won't know until tomorrow - really sucks.

 

With no restrictions will take a while, but you can still functionally train after a month or so. I hit bench PRs in both a knee brace post-acl reconstruction and boot post-achilles reconstruction... Not that I'd recommend either.

post #50726 of 57477
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

I was back to working my upper body about 2 wes after surgery. Pain is really your guide.

Plus working out your upper body gets you into the gym to do your PT.

 

That sounds fair enough, to be fair I feel like I could work out my upper body doing stuff like pullups and sme arms right now, but I haven't had surgery yet (or know if I'm going to).

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Originally Posted by Aidan K View Post
 

 

With no restrictions will take a while, but you can still functionally train after a month or so. I hit bench PRs in both a knee brace post-acl reconstruction and boot post-achilles reconstruction... Not that I'd recommend either.

Thanks! Well, I guess I meant functionally - strength has never been a primary goal of mine, even though it sucks my strength peaked right before I tore it. Still, as long as I can keep my body somewhat in shape that's all that matters.

 

Edit: Need to spend money on some nicer sweatpants due to this, though. Getting jeans on is just too annoying.


Edited by Landscape - 2/16/15 at 1:30pm
post #50727 of 57477

Is there a way to tell if your back is weaker than it should be compared to your chest/legs? I know it's different for everyone but I was told that the difference between bench/squat/dl should be roughly the same. Is there like a standard back lift? Or just how many pullups you can do?

post #50728 of 57477

I don't think your back can ever be strong enough.

I've heard people say you should be able to row as much as you can bench, which I think is bullshit. You very rarely see anybody row more than 315 and if you do their technique is shit. Most PLers (if not all) DL more than they bench to a good degree...

I don't know, if you can bench 3 plates and only do a few pullups with bodyweight it probably means you're fat, not necessarily weak, so that's not a good test either. I don't think there's a simple way of comparing a pulling movement to a pressing movement and figuring out if you're weak in comparison. If your back is weak, you will know it.

post #50729 of 57477
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post
 

Is there a way to tell if your back is weaker than it should be compared to your chest/legs? I know it's different for everyone but I was told that the difference between bench/squat/dl should be roughly the same. Is there like a standard back lift? Or just how many pullups you can do?

 

"should be roughly the same" is very vague and a very big generalization. The ratio between the 3 lifts depend quite a bit on how you are built. People who have longer legs and arms tend to naturally have great deadlifts but bad bench presses, and vice versa.

 

I wouldn't say there is a standard back lift. I think the reason those 3 lifts are the standard strength measures is because they are the lifts that you compete on in powerlifting. But a big deadlift is a pretty good indicator of a strong back.

 

A decent test to see if you're back strength is good enough is to do a max conv deadlift single. If your back is not straight, it is probably too weak or your technique is off (I'm disregarding intentional round back styles). Its the lats function to keep the upper back straight in a deadlift so upper bak rounding might be a sign to work on strengthening the lats or learn to activate them when you pull.

 

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Originally Posted by OccultaVexillum View Post
 

I don't think your back can ever be strong enough.

I've heard people say you should be able to row as much as you can bench, which I think is bullshit. You very rarely see anybody row more than 315 and if you do their technique is shit. Most PLers (if not all) DL more than they bench to a good degree...

I don't know, if you can bench 3 plates and only do a few pullups with bodyweight it probably means you're fat, not necessarily weak, so that's not a good test either. I don't think there's a simple way of comparing a pulling movement to a pressing movement and figuring out if you're weak in comparison. If your back is weak, you will know it.

 

That rowing to bench ratio is weird.

Another thing Ive read a lot is that you should do at least as many rows as presses. Some even say that you should do twices many rows. Supposedly its for shoulder health. Any of you follow that guideline?

 

My program doesn't look like that at all. My volume for benching and other presses is something like 3 times as much, and my shoulders feel fine. I do a lot of deadlifts, though. Since I learned to bench properly my shoulders haven't given me any trouble.

post #50730 of 57477
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Its the lats function to keep the upper back straight in a deadlift so upper bak rounding might be a sign to work on strengthening the lats or learn to activate them when you pull.

I don't think this is the case.
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