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post #50611 of 57260
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post


What on earth are you talking about and what does this have to do with stretching?

Nowhere have I said anything resembling what you're saying here.

 

I'm saying that I think that active stretching is essentially a form of strengthening. I work with a bunch of sports med people so I can ask them stuff if you want, but a lot of rehab is just retraining movements which is a form of repetitive motor movements, which is what flossing seems to be.

 

I gave the example of piriformis syndrome. 

 

As a counterpoint to this (i.e. on your side) tendonitis issues are often relieved by doing light weight eccentric movements. Would this count as flossing to you? 

I really don't have a horse in this race, but I don't see why you don't consider stretching and repetitive movements as strengthening and conditioning. I.e. you're conditioning motor patterns in a setting where injury is pretty much impossible. Flossing just seems to figure into this. Seems like something to do to increase blood flow post injury as well.

Like you, I don't buy into chiro stuff at all. I also don't see this entire graston technique thing as anything. 


Re: Wtf I was talking about.  It was in relation to training muscle pattern and movement. It's the opposite bs argument as saying that lifting doesn't carry over to sports.

 

I seem to have missed the earlier discussion. I'd like to hear more about what you think and why. You can pm if you want. I'm just curious. 

post #50612 of 57260

I think I figured out my squat problem, will still try to record video. I've long femurs proportion wise, I was always told to keep my knees in line with toes, when I do that I have to really stick my butt out for balance, which forces me to come up leaning forward a lot, and prevents me from going ass to grass. Today I tried just going straight down and not worry about knees, felt much more upright. I can go ass to grass but I heard that's not necessarily good either.

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For me, I take ART for what it is. I don't claim to understand it nor do I claim what the system claim is science or anything remotely close to it. All I know is I've been having lower back pains since July. After 2 to 3 sessions of ART, I've been pain free and have been doing sumo deadlift for the last 2 weeks. I was able to pull 235x5 without pain. I'm hoping to continue with ART and pulling sumo to when, one day, I'll be strong enough to pull 405x5. 

post #50614 of 57260
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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

but I heard that's not necessarily good either.

lol
post #50615 of 57260
Ass to grass is only not good if you let your hammies push your calves at the bottom and rest like that since it can fuck with your knee.

Have you tried front squats?
post #50616 of 57260
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Ass to grass is only not good if you let your hammies push your calves at the bottom and rest like that since it can fuck with your knee.

Have you tried front squats?

Not sure how you can avoid that if your going full depth?
post #50617 of 57260
Information is great but I think the internet provided too much information for lifters on minute bullshit and now they're confused. A lot of the conversations in this thread are proof.
post #50618 of 57260
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Originally Posted by milosh View Post


Not sure how you can avoid that if your going full depth?

 

Thought is that if your hamstrings are full out resting on your calves, you're putting stress on the knee on a different plane, i.e making it a fulcrum from behind. Just use calf to hamstring touch as a guide. They're not saying that touching is bad, it's if you're letting the weight press them into each other at full depth where you can get issues.

You can just use the touch as a cue to start coming back up. You're not going to die if they touch obviously, but probably not the best idea to have them to a point that they're shoving each other out of the way. That was my take away. You have to have a ton of mass for this to happen tbh. 

post #50619 of 57260
Thread Starter 
I just realized it's been a long time since we've had a 100% total fag-out in this thread. We came close today, boys.
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On that note... where's @fuji . Yo homeboy, ima come to london in march. We should chill.

post #50621 of 57260
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Ass to grass is only not good if you let your hammies push your calves at the bottom and rest like that since it can fuck with your knee.

Have you tried front squats?

 

The most common problem for people who insist on going ATG is that their back looks like a banana.

I've yet to see anyone who is not a weightlifter go down to a full ATG squat with a straight back and vertical bar path. Most people end up with a ton of butt wink and shifts their balance to the toes  in the bottom with the bar path moving forward as a result.

post #50622 of 57260
Interesting. Ill post a video of my form soon. Need to have someone take a vid. Maybe tonight!
post #50623 of 57260
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Originally Posted by tesseract View Post


I have a pretty decent flat bb bench and I feel like it does NOTHING for hypertrophy for me. Incline db press, reverse grip decline bench and decline power flyes seem to work well for me.

 

This is how I felt with BB press. I feel like I've put on a ton of shoulder size in the past ~2 months since upping the volume of accessory lifts I've been doing and switching to an 8-rep scheme on the bb press

 

Reverse-grip decline press seems like a good way to off yourself

post #50624 of 57260
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

This is how I felt with BB press. I feel like I've put on a ton of shoulder size in the past ~2 months since upping the volume of accessory lifts I've been doing and switching to an 8-rep scheme on the bb press

Reverse-grip decline press seems like a good way to off yourself
sometimes you have to risk death for bigger pecs.
post #50625 of 57260
I saw that I had like 50+ new posts in this thread... figured either someone dropped some sick progress pics, fuji regaled us (where you at dawg) or it devolved into a bitchfest rerun

So much for being an optimist confused.gif

Can disc problems manifest themselves as pain in muscles on the side? I did SLDLs yesterday for the first time in months and my back feels sore in a different way than the DOMS in my hamstrings. And my back has been semi-weird since I got back from Mexico in mid January
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