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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

I agree with Mike. I'm such a sad sap of shitty genetics and being a general pansy, why bother stacking the deck against myself when it comes to putting on muscles. I've used is protocol for about a year 1/2 and it's simple and it works.

I'm starting a linear progression today after doing high volume for awihle. Feeling good because last week I squatted without a belt what I did at the end of my last LP.

 

For me it was more of a function of having to be extremely careful in upping weights than it was a worry of gaining too much fat too fast.

 

This threads impact on me has largely been positive. I've never weighed 175 before and you guys pushing plus my cousins prodding has made me try to see if I can get up to 185 in the next bit. This is all new territory for me so I really appreciate the help I've had from all of you guys.

It's kind of hilarious going from barely fitting into a small in college as a 140lb bike racer to pushing 175lbs...


@mrchariybrown, I'm going to need some clothing recs from you and others. I'm probably going to ditch the majority of my now ill fitting CM wardrobe and look to do things a little more CM casual, but with more of an SWD flair. I can wear pretty  much whatever I want for the first two years of med school and I'm going to see how far I can push the weights within reason during that time.

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Conceptionist - Admittedly I am no expert on this subject. However, I do know a lot of actual experts on the subjects IRL and I've read a fair bit myself. When it comes to nutrition I've mainly read stuff by Alan Aragon (can't find the book right now or I would've quoted you stuff from it, "Girth Control" is great if you want a scientific approach to your diet), and Danish studies. But concerning your studies: I don't really see the relevance of the first study you linked, it just discusses the effect of EAA bolus vs. spread. The second one also doesn't look at if gained weight is muscle or fat. Furthermore there are studies showing you can recomp your body by changing your diet. Also steroids will lead to vastly increased size of muscles despite no training (but that's probably not relevant here).

 

Also, the thing about eating above maintenance isn't just that it allows you to train harder - it also allows you to move more weight thereby gaining more muscle. 

post #50028 of 57263
I admit that I am no expert on the subject either. I realize I might come off as too convinced at times though.

I don't think any studies should be taken as "the truth". You just said that gaining muscle at maintenance is ineffective and I provided this study as a counter argument. We can go on and on, I just wanted to show that there is evidence that you cannot take any further dietary actions for getting more muscles when you eat enough protein, since bulking is often believed to be the only way to gains and ridethecliche asked about gains at maintenance.

The first study shows that you can't stimulate MPS more through your diet when MPS is already fully elevated - no further gains by simply eating more when protein requirements are met.

Also, I didn't use the study to say that lean gains is superior or to legitimize my pretty slow weight gain. I just used it to show the studies results.
post #50029 of 57263

Yeah, I've never really understood how recomps work other than you keep doing whatever you're doing while pushing nutrients around periworkout window and keeping protein relatively high i.e. well over maintenance. It's not something I'm really interested in trying right this second, but I might try pushing a recomp over a cut just so I can lean out a bit without dropping weight too quickly. That should allow me to start 'leaning' earlier without forcing myself to hold a weight for too long because I'm essentially trying to hold onto weight for the entire duration of the process.


I'm honestly not too far off from where conceptionist is right now body fat wise, probably a little leaner. I don't know here my calipers are but I'd like to check. I used to check this stuff every 2-3 weeks to keep track of progress when trying to gain or lean out.

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Sup

 

MPS brah checking in

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Yeah, I've never really understood how recomps work other than you keep doing whatever you're doing while pushing nutrients around periworkout window and keeping protein relatively high i.e. well over maintenance. It's not something I'm really interested in trying right this second, but I might try pushing a recomp over a cut just so I can lean out a bit without dropping weight too quickly. That should allow me to start 'leaning' earlier without forcing myself to hold a weight for too long because I'm essentially trying to hold onto weight for the entire duration of the process.


I'm honestly not too far off from where conceptionist is right now body fat wise, probably a little leaner. I don't know here my calipers are but I'd like to check. I used to check this stuff every 2-3 weeks to keep track of progress when trying to gain or lean out.

Hmm reckon you're about 2-3% mate
post #50032 of 57263
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Hmm watcha mean? Heels dont look like they are coming off the ground. I will do that sometimes though

Sorry about not seeing your reply. It's subtle, but the motion and variance in your feet works its way upstream. Start with trying to keep your feet still. It's not the heels.
post #50033 of 57263
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Hmm reckon you're about 2-3% mate

 

That's bullshit!

I'm FAT FREE, LIKE THE FUCKING MILK I DRINK BRO!

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I stopped reading at "Brad Pitt in Fight Club"
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Quite a strange article considering no one actually lifts in england.
post #50037 of 57263
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Quite a strange article considering no one actually lifts in england.

 

From a sociological perspective, the author (if he isn't totally full of shit) says some interesting stuff about former mining towns etc where this gained popularity.

post #50038 of 57263
I think it was a great article. Lifting for most folks is largely about vanity, and that's OK. Humans like attention and admiration. I enjoy powerlifting and admire strong powerlifters, but I think Rippletits has set a lot of people back with his hyper-aversion to vanity and body composition. Lot of times people do SS and buy into that anti-aesthetic dogma, and then wind up stepping back, accepting their vanity and breating a sigh of relief.

There is def a "reclaim your manhood" movement afoot... this shit ties back in with the whole facial hair revival and all the other silly shit like microbreweries, beekeeping, yadda yadda. I think overall it's a good thing... its important to get off the computer and do/make things.
post #50039 of 57263
Cliff notes, plz. Article much too long to read.
post #50040 of 57263
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post

Quite a strange article considering no one actually lifts in england.

I've not been to England but a good friend of mine did a year in Manchester and he said that most of the dudes over there were way bigger than here (New Zealand). Which is saying something because over here rugby is our national pastime and we have quite a sport-intensive culture.

I have met a few brits who seem to be in that Geordie Shore kinda culture.

It's also interesting that rugby league is gaining more traction over than than union. My union-purist mind tells me that league is much more bogan-friendly than union.
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