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Gregg Plitt got hit by a train and died. RIP aesthetics.
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Christ, what a morbid way to go. RIP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwvTD8gI3WU#t=211

Pretty cool video of WW2 H2H combatives
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congrats, hope interview went well. did you apply to others in nyc?

Yeah i did. They're the only program that was interested in me.

Interviewer was a weird guy, but pretty nice. He had one headphone in the entire time and kept looking at a monitor i couldn't see. Totally bizarre. Was totally attentive somehow though.

At the end he told me that he liked me and that he wasn't on the admissions committee but he had to write a let regarding the interview. He told me he'd say that he thought the school was making a mistake if they didn't let me in. I was kinda awestruck. Now to wait 8 weeks...

Crossing my fingers thigh. I'd love to go there.
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end is great
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Lmfao
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Side note, is it possible to slow gain while keeping body far relatively consistent? Do people tend not to do that because it's a slower and harder process? 

Yes, process will be slower. It is also pretty much impossible to not gain fat if you're gaining weight consistently (although slowly), but an increase in muscle mass will also lower your bf% despite having gained fat. The problem with lean bulking is you risk eating around maintenance level and thereby only gain minimally.

 

 

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Yes, you need a higher amount of protein when cutting than bulking. 

Also, as you get leaner and the caloric deficit gets larger, the more protein you need relative your bodyweight.

 

The highest scientific recommendation I have seen comes from Eric Helms of 3DMJ. He found that bodybuilders prepping for comp should have a protein intake between 2.3-3.1 grams per kg (roughly 1-1.4 grams per lb) of lean body mass. So its not ridiculously high, and I bet most people reach 1 gram per pound rather easy and would do that anyway when cutting.

Do you have any evidence to support the first part? I've never seen anything supporting that. Also, those recommendations were set for bodybuilders prepping for a comp as you mention - up to 3 grams per kg bw is way too much for most people lifting weights. Highest scientific recommendation I've seen for people lifting weights is 1.8 (Alan Aragon). And then you're better off getting the rest of your calories from carbs/fats, especially when cutting.
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Ran 3 miles at race pace as a gym warmup, felt pretty gassed but managed to do everything I needed to anyway. I think in the future if I'm not doing slow distance, I'm going to give myself a bit of a break in between.

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Originally Posted by Landscape View Post
 

Yes, process will be slower. It is also pretty much impossible to not gain fat if you're gaining weight consistently (although slowly), but an increase in muscle mass will also lower your bf% despite having gained fat. The problem with lean bulking is you risk eating around maintenance level and thereby only gain minimally.

 

 

Well, from what I've read muscle building is not dependent on calories, but protein. So, you might build the maximum amount of muscle (not general weight) at maintenance calories. That it might be harder to perform in the gym to achieve the desired stress and weight progression on maintenance than on a caloric surplus is another topic, although related.

 

My personal theory for why people think they gain so much more muscle mass while bulking than on maintenance is because they mistake the fat gains for muscle gains. Pure muscle gains come very slow, so while bulking the added fat gains can trick you into thinking you've gained a whole lot of muscle, while half of it might be fat.

 

 

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Do you have any evidence to support the first part? I've never seen anything supporting that. Also, those recommendations were set for bodybuilders prepping for a comp as you mention - up to 3 grams per kg bw is way too much for most people lifting weights. Highest scientific recommendation I've seen for people lifting weights is 1.8 (Alan Aragon). And then you're better off getting the rest of your calories from carbs/fats, especially when cutting.

 

 

No, no source to back it up right now. 

 

I thought it was obvious for everyone that they wouldn't need that much protein if they were regular people, as the recommendation was for pro BBers in the end of their prep. I used it to put the numbers into perspective and to show that the protein recommendations for ordinary people who lift are often too high. 

I can agree with your last point, although it is very individual how much carbs and fat you need to perform well in the gym.

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Eat big, get big. Keep it simple.
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Pretty shit workout today. Did legs/shoulders. Weights were all 10-15 lbs lower and felt really heavy, but I got through it.

Not really sure what I was expecting since I benched yesterday and did hex deads. Got like 4x5 at 205lb for bb bench so happy with that. Also got 5x5 with 195 for hex deads. Doubt I'll go higher than 225 or 245 (bar plus 4x25 lb plates each side) for hex deads, but will start adding reps.

What's the reason most of the people here don't like pre-workouts? Is it just that they have so much artificial crap in them?

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Nah it's just that they fuck with my sleep pattern.

If I worked out in the morning I probably wouldn't mind.
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just a waste of money. Coffee and bronkaid is cheap as fuck and better than any pre workout I've seen.
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Isn't bronkaid impossible to find? I think getting like even a half or a quarter scoop of pre-workout would help me a bit. I could do caffeine pills too, but 200 mg is quite a bit and I'm sure that would have the same effect on sleep.


I'd probably be taking whatever about 30-60 mins before a workout and hope to sleep 4-5 hrs after.

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I don't think so. I still have a lot of it from my last cut. I'm not really affected by stimulants when it comes to sleep, I can drink coffee then take a nap. Stress though keeps me up at night like a mofo.
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