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post #46081 of 57262
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Originally Posted by ellsbebc View Post

I'd much rather drop $2/bar than stop for some junk food along the way.

In my opinion, quest bars are junk food.


Edited by OccultaVexillum - 7/11/14 at 2:39pm
post #46082 of 57262
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Originally Posted by OccultaVexillum View Post

 Except quest bars are junk food.

Explain this.

>inb4 not as much fiber as advertised
>inb4 quest posting broscience videos and getting reprimanded by alan aragon/layne norton
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Originally Posted by dacox View Post

I mentioned cutting to make weight a while ago. I ended up going from somewhere in the low 190's to 154.4 for my final weigh-in. Here are some before and after pics:

You're fuckin shredded brah
post #46083 of 57262

Holy shit @dacox !

 

Shredded is fucking right.

post #46084 of 57262

Comparing quest bars to McDonald's or whatever other rest stop food there is is one thing, and they obv better.

 

But it's still a densely processed food with a bunch of weird ingredients. Even the protein blend isn't great (milk protein isolate).

post #46085 of 57262
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Originally Posted by fuji View Post


if I recall your max deadlift was 315 right? That row form must have been messy.

 

You're correct on the deadlift, but I didn't deadlift for almost a year when I was doing the rows. That was my 1RM for deads. I stopped doing it because it bothered my back all those years back.


But yeah, what does it matter.


I actually love doing seated rows right now with the handle attachments you use for flyes. I put two handles there and it makes the ROM so much more and I can feel it like woah in my back.

post #46086 of 57262
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Originally Posted by OccultaVexillum View Post

But it's still a densely processed food with a bunch of weird ingredients. Even the protein blend isn't great (milk protein isolate).

The broscience is strong with this one
post #46087 of 57262

Tell me what "broscience" is then, dickhead.

You asked why I thought it was junk, I told you.

 

Alright I'm not going to call you names, but seriously. I'm not against supplements or chemical sounding ingredients, I use a bunch myself. But when you say you would take a quest bar over "junk food" it implies that quest bars are a health food. That's probably not what the OP meant though, just that it's a better convenient option than rest stop junk foods, which is true. So I'll leave it there (and hopefully you will too).

post #46088 of 57262
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Originally Posted by OccultaVexillum View Post

Tell me what "broscience" is then, dickhead.
You asked why I thought it was junk, I told you.

Alright I'm not going to call you names, but seriously. I'm not against supplements or chemical sounding ingredients, I use a bunch myself. But when you say you would take a quest bar over "junk food" it implies that quest bars are a health food. That's probably not what the OP meant though, just that it's a better convenient option than rest stop junk foods, which is true. So I'll leave it there (and hopefully you will too).

1. You actually just called me a name. I have not.
2. I did not ask you why you THOUGHT it was junk food. You flat out declared it was. I asked you to explain your declaration. You told me your thoughts rather than facts which is a very "broscience" thing to do.
3. The implications of someone eating a quest bar over "junk food" is the macronutrient profile. Compare them to anything you can get from a fast food restaurant. Compare the ingredients while you're at it. Why does the bun in a burger have 12 different ingredients? Going a step further, compare the macronutrient profile of a quest bar vs. any other protein/meal replacement bar you can buy at the store. This is one of the reasons why quest is so popular.
4. No one declared quest bars as a "health food". Health food is an ambiguous term with no real meaning. Is lettuce healthy? There are micronutrients in there, but it is mostly water and has no caloric density.
post #46089 of 57262

1 - Yeah, I called you a name and felt like a dickhead for doing it. So I edited it. I felt like it would have been worse to just take it out completely so I crossed it out. I didn't apologize though, so I will now - Sorry.

As for 2-4. I already said my piece and it all still applies. Anything else we can talk about is just arguing without any point or purpose. We disagree. It doesn't matter. I will say though that saying "health food" is ambiguous would also mean that "junk food" is ambiguous and are both dependent on individual views of what is good/healthy and bad/junk.

post #46090 of 57262
Of course "health" and "junk" are both ambiguous terms which is why I'm calling you out for calling quest bars junk food.

I wanted you to explain why the ingredients are weird. The list of ingredients is notably shorter than just about any protein bar on the market and way the hell shorter than most processed foods. There are only 1-2 ingredients that aren't immediately obvious what they are, but they do a good job of explaining what they are (such as plant-based fiber).

I was also hoping you'd post a study of the protein blend they use, but somehow I doubt anyone's done one. Does it not contain the protein they advertise? Is it not as anabolic as other milk-derived proteins? There is a huge difference between "the protein blend not being great" and "junk food".
post #46091 of 57262

broscience/ milk protein isolate - not as pure as other varieties /broscience

I'm not going to pubmed and finding articles to appease you. Erythol and whatever other sugar substitutes and alcohols are present aren't great for your gut health and digestion, even in small amounts (broscience) which is a weird additive when you pack so much fiber in there, especially in the form of what is essentially already a sugar substitute in itself - oligosaccharides - /broscience. Yes, they are infinitely better than other products on the market I just don't see the need for them. 

 

If I had prefaced my comment with "In my opinion...", would you have cared as much? If so, I chose that option.

post #46092 of 57262

Guys, what are some of your routines for strong abs? My buddy just told me to ditch the bicycles for weighted side bends and leg lifts. 

post #46093 of 57262
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Originally Posted by OccultaVexillum View Post

If I had prefaced my comment with "In my opinion...", would you have cared as much? If so, I chose that option.

I would not have.
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Originally Posted by barrelntrigger View Post

Guys, what are some of your routines for strong abs? 

Beltless front squats
post #46094 of 57262
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Originally Posted by I<3Bacon View Post


I would not have.
 

K, fixed it.

post #46095 of 57262
Speaking of protein bars.

https://epicbar.com/
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