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Originally Posted by Aidan K View Post

Its not an attack, i genuinely enjoy talking lifting technique and learning about different approaches to the lifts.


No, no, by all means, please share your thoughts and experiences. Like I've said, I don't know shit about deadlifts as I just started doing them 4 weeks ago, so I would like to try out different variations of the lift. I do have one very important question though, if I were to lift with my knees over the bar during the set up, would I run greater risk of injuring my knees when pulling heavy weight like 450 lbs and above? 

post #45317 of 57260
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Originally Posted by conceptionist View Post

Nah, not really. 

He gives me a few pointers every now and then but generally he thinks most people over complicate it.


And yet, here we are

Barrel; instead of long back and forths with conceptionist about deadlifting, why don't you just deadlift more and figure our what works best for you.
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Also don't worry about dead lifting 4+ plates when you can't even do 2
post #45319 of 57260
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

Also don't worry about dead lifting 4+ plates when you can't even do 2


Were you speaking literally or figuratively? 

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And yet, here we are

Barrel; instead of long back and forths with conceptionist about deadlifting, why don't you just deadlift more and figure our what works best for you.


Thanks. I have been trying out different techniques and have found the one that conceptionist spoke of works best for me. 

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And yet, here we are

Barrel; instead of long back and forths with conceptionist about deadlifting, why don't you just deadlift more and figure our what works best for you.

Well, he has told me to a lot of stuff about my deadlift technique, like bringing the shins to the bar and screwing the shoulders back into the pocket. Its a different dialogue with a coach IRL, as I can make a pull, he gives me a single pointer and then I try that, he tries to correct it, try again. All of those things I mentioned was introduced to me over the course of 10 weeks. With the internet, its not as interactive and I agree on that telling all pointers at once can over complicate it.

It seems like barrel was able to lift better anyway.

Aidan K:
I don't know a ton about the exact biomechanics of the deadlift and the power of the quads vs posterior chain so I can't really comment that. I just trust my guy's advice and it has helped me pull more. I think those pictures from the article might be exaggerating each style to get the point across.
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Random Teach Barrel How to Overthink A Deadlift Thoughts
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How to deadlift:

1. Bend over
2. Pick that shit up
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Conceptionist, do you train with Eddie Berglund? If so WTactualF at his ROM! God damn his got a bright future since his bench is so frigggin high already! Just needs to get his SQ and DL up and he'll have a good chance at winning juniors and someday open. Mate (JP) who lifted against him this year has a povo bench at 110 but made up for it with his DL and managed to take the junior title and open wr, congrats to Eddie for his open record bench too!

 

Edit: Good to see an other Strayan in here :) 

2nd Edit: Google Mike Tuchscherer for what is in my opinion the gold standard when it comes to pulling conventional! Crat, how do you like a slightly lower bar placement? Something like a mid-bar instead of low or high, feel like that might help you from pitching forward outta the whole (though that could just be a strength issue). Also when you're coming out of the whole if you're pulling the bar down hard with the effort try not to as that can also pitch you even further forward.

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If you wanted to bench 3x a week with a mix of low rep, high rep and failure vs volume work, for a long period, how would you do it?
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If you wanted to bench 3x a week with a mix of low rep, high rep and failure vs volume work, for a long period, how would you do it?

Heavy, speed, lockout
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What's lockout?
post #45328 of 57260
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

What's lockout?

Lockout work? Upper portion of your range of motion.
post #45329 of 57260
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Originally Posted by Cool The Kid View Post

If you wanted to bench 3x a week with a mix of low rep, high rep and failure vs volume work, for a long period, how would you do it?

I bench 3x + 2 other days with upper.

My BB bench days are:

Day 1)
Competition Bench (low reps, high intensity) superset high rep DB flyes


Day 2)
Close Grip Bench with feet on bench
Bench with added band tension at lockout
Both done for higher-ish reps abd volume (sets of 5)

Day 3)
Bench with pause 1st rep, rest of reps TnG


So if you analyze it, its actually one day with pec focus (bench superset flyes), one day with tricep and lockout focus, and one day with bottom ROM focus (pause reps).
All days are done pyramid style so te warmup sets has more reps (5-8) and the top working sets like 2-5 reps.
post #45330 of 57260
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Originally Posted by Aidan K View Post

Doesn't this position just put more of the effort onto your quads and less onto the bigger hamstrings and glutes? The first tendency is going to be for your hips to rise in order to load the posterior chain, which you are going to have to fight with your quads. You're reducing hip extension by increasing knee extension,and hip extension strength is generally much stronger (and has a larger capacity for strength).

Yea, it does. It's the same way Travis Mash taught me when I had a few 1 on 1s with him. I guess some of the best conventional deadlifters had massive quads.
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