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post #43876 of 46494

Fuji you gotta pick consistent mass and currency denominations man I can't follow your stories, it's like grams this and pounds that but dollars here and GBP there :revolve:

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@fuji, you should get your buddy to just go to a farm and get the milk straight from the teets of cows that just gave birth...

post #43878 of 46494
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

@fuji
, you should get your buddy to just go to a farm and get the milk straight from the teets of cows that just gave birth...

Tell him to buy a fucking cow it's cheaper in the long run those shit's will eat your fucking grass FFS, sell your mower to fund the purchase or raise some sub debt.

Also I think you should start sending him broscience to confuse him just for lulz
post #43879 of 46494
I've started giving my roommate good advice that sounds like broscience because he only believes me if it sounds like broscience.
post #43880 of 46494
The Ironmaster adjustable dumbbells are fucking amazing if you have limited space. My brother bought me the expansion kit for it, used it once, then joined a real gym lol
post #43881 of 46494
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Any bodybuilders do like a 2x a day high frequency thing? About to have $6k worth of Rogue stuff put into my garage. I have the time and I have the constant access to equipment. Thinking about doing 2x a day. I know recovery is like 80% of working out, but it would be awesome to get a ton of volume and frequency in because it's right in my garage and convenient.

also I had a dream last night that RHET sold me some steroids.

I know a guy who sometimes does 2x a day. According to him, you really have to up your carb intake if you want to be able to lift with any considerable volume and intensity. Many faster acting carbs between the sessions.

His approach to lifting is pretty cool. Started to lift a year ago. Immediately took the John Broz approach: lifting every single day with only compounds and moderate volume and high intensity. Daily maxing on squats, 5-10 back off sets + whatever other 3-5 movements like DLs, bench, chins, OL lifts. His squat has gone from 135 to 375 and about the same for DL. His bench is lagging but thats because he has changed to weightlifting.

Regarding super high freq for BB, I'm not so sure. Remember that video by RP about freq? Anyway, Mike Israetel believes 2-3 x a week freq for a muscle is optimal if pure muscle growth is the goal. It has to recover fully before you work the muscle again to get max growth. I don't know any BBers that do super high freq either. Some lift 7 days a week, but thats on split programs like P/P/L, so the freq is not high.

For powerlifting and weightlifting you seem to be able to work with very high frequency since technique is a huge part and practicing the lifts more often can be beneficial. Then, many of the session just have to be light enough to not tear you down.
Edited by conceptionist - 5/15/14 at 10:37am
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Thinking about it, I just remembered that the result from the Norwegian frequency project on powerlifters was that the 6x a week group (twice the freq) gained not only twice as much strength in the squat as the 3x a week group, but also twice as much muscle on the legs. Both groups had identical volume over a week, the 6x a week group just split the working sets for the lifts over twice as many sessions.
post #43883 of 46494
Interesting stuff. That John Broz always interested me, but his lifters were certainly equipped and he did sort of injure the most promising weightlifter the US has seen in a long time.

Discussing bodybuilding stuff with RP, they are all about the recovery aspect and if you're training hard and eating good then less usually means more. He told me he's making a bodybuilding series like he did with powerlifting, really excited about that. I'm familiar with how they program for that, big compound lifts for high repetitions but still lifting heavy as possible, but hoping to get some other take-away.
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Interesting stuff. That John Broz always interested me, but his lifters were certainly equipped and he did sort of injure the most promising weightlifter the US has seen in a long time.

Discussing bodybuilding stuff with RP, they are all about the recovery aspect and if you're training hard and eating good then less usually means more. He told me he's making a bodybuilding series like he did with powerlifting, really excited about that. I'm familiar with how they program for that, big compound lifts for high repetitions but still lifting heavy as possible, but hoping to get some other take-away.

With RP? Use real words man foo.gif
post #43885 of 46494
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Originally Posted by Coldsnap View Post

Interesting stuff. That John Broz always interested me, but his lifters were certainly equipped and he did sort of injure the most promising weightlifter the US has seen in a long time.

Discussing bodybuilding stuff with RP, they are all about the recovery aspect and if you're training hard and eating good then less usually means more. He told me he's making a bodybuilding series like he did with powerlifting, really excited about that. I'm familiar with how they program for that, big compound lifts for high repetitions but still lifting heavy as possible, but hoping to get some other take-away.

 

Yeah, as much as I'm interested in trying out very high frequency, I'm gonna wait until its really needed to make gains.

The downsides with the Broz approach are not only the injury risk, but also the time aspect and maybe most importantly, that once you've adapted to high freq and high volume, you can't really do much more to force new gains. You can only train so many hours a day, you know. That said, many of the elite powerlifters in Sweden train 5 days a week with squat, bench and DLs every session, usually many variations of the lifts too in a single session. They don't train with very high intensity though. Most of the work is in the 50-75% range, IIRC. The Norwegian guys like Carl Yngvar Christensen train similarly.

 

Bodybuilding series would be awesome. I really like what he puts out.

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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

I don't know why you guys don't post back shots. That's one of the best places to see musculature and thickness.

@ridethecliche attempted a back shot just for you buddy foo.gif no one still gave me any BF help, thanks rhet brahs!!

tMVOU1V.jpg
post #43887 of 46494
Fuark so jelly of the home gyms

I just want a cage, barbell, big fucking Croc dumbbells for rows, chin/dip station and a pulldown rack for triceps

Soon soon
post #43888 of 46494
Someone just posted this crap on my FB wall

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/14/embrace-taryn-brumfitt_n_5318178.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

Body positivity movement is so fucking stupid. Yeah, a lot of people think a lot worse about their body than they should, but using it as an excuse to be fat is dumb

Also can't believe her before pic was in a bodybuilding comp she looks fucking terrible. And of course her after pic is after "having a baby" i.e. gaining way more weight than she had to when pregnant.
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Originally Posted by MarkI View Post

@ridethecliche attempted a back shot just for you buddy foo.gif no one still gave me any BF help, thanks rhet brahs!!

tMVOU1V.jpg

Rear delts coming in strong.
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Rear delts coming in strong.

Been doin dem swings like you suggested
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